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That was my point.
Slim pickings.

I consider them monsters and I am also expecting one or both of them to switch parties midstream.

I know, and yes, you DID define it.
I'm sensing the continuing mood in the House GOP and how it affects a person like Upton's chances.

The plan is for moderate R's like Upton and the Dems to form a coalition like other countries do.

When other countries form a coalition government, you’re talking 3 or more viable parties which have seats in their parliament. Here, we have two parties with no other party to form a coalition with. In other countries, the party with the most members usually doesn’t have enough seats to make a majority, 50% plus 1, thus making it a must to form a coalition with other parties to get to a majority.

Having said that, you do have 213 democrats, all that would be needed is 5 moderate republicans so fed up with Trumpism that they’d unite with the democrats. But would those 5 moderate republicans be willing to give the speakership to a democrat? Maybe to a outside man? There’s no requirement the speaker must be a member of the House.

The Democrats accomplished a lot with but 222 members in the house. They were united. The Republicans are disunited. McCarthy will be challenged by a Trumper. It may be a long while before the house can achieve the 218 votes needed to pick the next speaker. Even if McCarthy finally makes it as speaker, he’ll be beholding to Trumpers like MTG.

But we do have three "parties" right now: Dems, moderate Republicans and MAGAts (formerly known as TBaggers )


That is why there is talk of forming a coalition of moderate Republicans and Dems. This Upton guy sounds like the perfect guy for the job.

You have 2 major parties, the Republican and Democratic Parties. Now you have different factions/wings within each party. Calling the MAGA faction and the moderate faction within the Republican Party two different political parties is the same as call the Progressives and moderate Democrats within the Democratic Party two different political parties. Thus in your way of thinking that’s 4 political parties.

Here’s an interesting article.

Turnout by Republicans Was Great. It's Just That Many of Them Didn't Vote for Republicans.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/turnout-republicans-great-just-many-191913435.html

The exit polls for the runoff hasn’t been published yet. But it seems many more Republicans voted than democrats, only a bunch of them voted for Warnock over Walker. The Article goes into much more detail.

Here in Georgia, Trump gets the blame for losing our two Republican senate seats back in 2021 runoff. Trump’s, your vote won’t count campaign. Then Trump comes up with a dunce to run for the senate in Walker. I do think here in Georgia there’s probably more anti-Trump Republicans than in any other state. It wasn’t turnout that that cost Walker to be defeated.

From the article which I agree with.

In state after state, the final turnout data shows that registered Republicans turned out at a higher rate — and in some places a much higher rate — than registered Democrats, including in many of the states where Republicans were dealt some of their most embarrassing losses.

Instead, high-profile Republicans like Herschel Walker in Georgia or Blake Masters in Arizona lost because Republican-leaning voters decided to cast ballots for Democrats, even as they voted for Republican candidates for U.S. House or other down-ballot races in their states.

Georgia is a fine example. While Walker may blame turnout for his poor showing in November and earlier this week, other Republican candidates seemed to have no problem at all. Gov. Brian Kemp won by nearly 8 points over Stacey Abrams; Republican candidates for House won the most votes on the same day.

Yet Sen. Raphael Warnock won in Georgia anyway because a large group of voters willing to back other Republicans weren’t willing to back Walker.

And another

GOP Georgia lieutenant governor: Every Republican ‘ought to hold Donald Trump accountable’ for Warnock win

https://www.yahoo.com/news/gop-georgia-lieutenant-governor-every-164516027.html

...just as abortion brought out the Dems this midterm and stemmed the red tide, Clarence Thomas ran his big, bigoted, mouth and got gay-marriage codified.

I love it when Rwingers shoot themselves in the foot.

Republicans 2024: We have an uncanny ability to lose winnable elections