Capitol Hill Blue Forums Political Issues Politics In General Trump is done

I know, many have suggested this but, now, I think its done. He tried to get involved in the currently Republican disaster and was simply ignored by one and all. I suspect that his followers are no longer donating money to him and the question of his popularity tells us he is not. The media, who created, and nurtured him for free, is no longer rushing to put him on TV which means he is not the money put for TV folk as he once was as well.

He is being ignored by one and all. His popularity is going away. It also seems that the Republican party itself is ignoring him and his so-called base is not voting as he has suggested they should as well.

On top of that his own daughter seems to be bailing as well.

My own thought is that voters and others have just had enough and are moving on.

This, in turn, probably means that those who are dealing with charges will free considerably more free as well.

Things are not all bad!

I suspect there are still quite a few MAGAt fools parting with their money to support Trump.

Yep, I agree. However, there doesn't seem to be as many as there were and they don't seem to be voting as a block anymore.

I just think that he is at the stage where he is boring everybody.

As usual, in the fullness of time, etc.

Please don't confuse or conflate real elected Republicans who have been extorted by THE BASE to support Trump or at least be complicit in their tacit support for Trump. Real elected Republicans have always had problems with Trump but could never say anything because they stood a chance of being primaried. It was all about maintaining power for these characters.

Now however, as some of these real elected Republicans have seen some softening or possible softening of Trump influence, they have finally become more vocal with their discontent. Not true of the MAGA-heads. I see two camps of real Trump supporters. In one camp are the always and true loyal Trump supporters. He is their voice and their savior. In the other camp are loyalist Trump supporters who have been compromised by Jan6. Witness Rusty Bowers. He stood up for the law, but when asked if he would support Trump in 2024, he said yes, got too much criticism, so "changed" his mind and said no. He lost his election i.e. THE BASE unelected him.

No Trump supporter in my neck of the woods has taken down their flags or signs from 2020. I have to conclude THE BASE continues to support Trump. What this means is no matter what real elected Republicans say now, they do not realize they can not get re-elected without THE BASE. Trump controls the largest faction of people who vote Republican. Bear that in mind with any political analysis of Trump's influence.

Apparently some very loyal Trump supporters are telling Trump, he is backing the wrong horse. Let's see what Trump does. He always follows when he hears hosannas for Trump.

Matt Gaetz (R-FL) nominated Trump for Speaker of the House. Trump got one vote - from Matt Gaetz.

Where we disagree on Trump is you all want him in jail, I don’t care if that is where he ends up or not. But we agree Trump has been bad for politics and the country and must go. How, I don’t care. You guys do care, you only want him in jail. We only differ on how he goes and where he ends up. An exile to Timbuktu would be fine with me. There will be no minds changed.

Regardless of the above, I’ve been saying Trump was a has been, done for since he lost in November of 2020. Sure, he had power within the Republican Party as shown in the GOP primaries where his chosen candidates won. But his power was limited to the GOP. Roughly one third of the nation. His power nationally was gone, winning an election far beyond his reach and power. This is what I looked at, I didn’t care if he still held the power within the Republican Party, he had none nationally. Most of his chosen candidates lost last November, Tshibaka, Mastriano, Oz, Lake, Masters, Cox, Diehl, Bolduc, Walker, Laxalt and more. After November, more Republicans wanted to ditch Trump. They want to win general elections, not just primaries. The GOP is in the process of de-Trumpization. Making him a has been even within GOP ranks. Non-MAGA Republicans now out number MAGA Republicans 47-36%. Most Republicans gave Trump’s announcement that he’s running for the presidency again a shrug. No excitement, no enthusiasm. He’s a has been all around. He’s done as you all state, toast, becoming just an irrelevant pain in the butt, a has been who can only dream of what he once was. He’s no longer a player, but a spectator.

The Republican Party has now entered a civil war among their different factions. MAGA-Republicans fighting to retain power as in denying McCarthy the speakership. Chaos reigns within the GOP. This is their last-ditch effort to retain power and their hold over the Republican Party. But instead of a majority, MAGA-Republicans have fallen to a plurality, they still have the largest faction within the GOP. The question to be answered is can the other factions unite to defeat them, make them irrelevant or will the disunity of the other factions lead to MAGA still retaining their hold over the Republican Party. Time will provide the answer.

When I say I want to see him in jail, I'm being nice. Honestly, I think he has committed treason and should be hung! And there are several others that should be right next to him on the gallows.

Trump himself might be done, but his impressions will continue to be a burden to the country. The power hungry politicians have seen a glimpse of the path to totalitarianism that Trump has shown them. I expect the process will continue to be improved upon until it succeeds.

LOL .... I still you still don't get it.

You think he is bad for politics and I have to conclude that is about as partisan as one can get. For all your demonstrations about being non-partisan it turns out you are a Republican/conservative partisan i.e. Trump is bad for Republican/conservative politics.

I don't want him in jail because he is bad for politics, because I don't care how or why he is bad for politics, I want him in jail because he BROKE THE LAW!!!!!!! Perhaps you can explain how that is being partisan???? Don't consult a poll ... use your own words. Did he commit a crime? If not why not? if so what should be done? I suspect if he was a neighborhood Joe you would have the answers. Being a politician makes no difference to me regardless of which political persuasion he belongs. If you break the law, I hope to God someone prosecutes you, otherwise we live in a Darwinian survival fest, not a land ruled by law.

You don't care that the fomenter of the J620 insurrection serves jail time or not? You don't care that the guy who stole national documents serves jail time or not?

Do you think that crimes against the United States should go unpunished?

Interesting to note that Trump brought back the firing squad during his tenure. What a fitting punishment for Trump.