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Strange politics or the polls are misleading people again.
Trump having the lowest average approval ratings of etc etc, continues to dominate and control his party. Every House sub-committee will have hearings designed to support and defend Trump. Every Republican on talk shows this weekend defended and supported Trump. Republicans continue to find their way to MaL to kiss the ring.
I have not seen anyone who can supplant Trump at this time or in the near future despite all the pundits claiming Trump's power is waning, he is losing influence, MAGA-heads are leaving, etc. Don't be fooled by polls ... again.
ignorance is the enemy without equality there is no liberty America can survive bad policy, but not destruction of our Democratic institutions
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You need to break down Trump’s support via party and independents. Yes, Trump still is popular among Republicans, approximately 30% of the electorate. 30% isn’t going to win any national elections. Trump may be king at the moment within the Republican Party, but nationally, he’s a loser. If the GOP nominates him again for 2024, he’ll be lucky to get 40% of the vote. Trump is the best thing the Democrats have going for them. He’s very much disliked by independents and hated by Democrats.
You seen how Trump chosen candidates faired in last year’s midterms. They lost because independents didn’t vote for them. Trump was king during the republican primaries, a loser during the general election. Non-Trump chosen candidates, senate, governor, received 10 points on average more votes than Trump chosen candidates. If I were a democrat, I’d want Trump to be the GOP nominee and choosing candidates for other offices again in 2024.
Trump may rule over his 30% of the electorate or country, at least for now. But he’s outnumbered 70-30 when it comes to the nation. Okay, 60-40 if you include independents lean republican. Let Trump and company rule the Republican Party, the longer he rules, the better for the Democrats. At least election wise.
It's high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first instead of their political party. For way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.
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he’s a loser. .... Trump chosen candidates faired in last year’s midterms etc Why are you confused???? I made no comment nor did I insinuate any comment which would speculate on Trump winning an election or any candidate he endorsed winning an election. I stand by my comment .... Trump is the sole voice which controls THE BASE of the Republican Party. If that comment is inaccurate, then please tell me to whom I should be paying attention??? Dylan said he didn't need a weatherman to tell him which way the wind blows ... well I don't need a poll to tell me who obviously is the sole voice of the Republican Party.
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I think with roughly control of 40% of the base, the avid Trump followers, he controls the GOP today. But I don’t think he will a year from now or as we ramp up for the 2024 election. You have approximately 80% of Republican elected officials living in fear of Trump, in fear that the 40% or so of the base Trump controls will primary them out. Trump does have the largest faction of many within the GOP. A plurality today, which was a majority a year ago. You can weigh that if you like, from around 65% of the base down to 40%.
More and more Republicans are realizing they can’t win general elections with Trump being the leader or the face of the GOP. After all, winning elections is what this is all about even if you believe the contrary. You lose an election; you can’t accomplish a thing. You just become a bystander watching history and perhaps the future pass you by from the sidelines. So, I take most politics into an election context. Which party or candidates will be on the curb watching and which will be marching to the drum beat of policy making.
You love to ignore elections as if they’re totally irrelevant. You love to ignore all of Americans and concentrate on just the Democratic Party or liberal base as if the rest of America doesn’t exist. That’s okay, but I prefer to know or have an idea how elections will turn out, who’ll be in power, who’ll be making policy and who won’t, how all of America, which includes Democrats, Republicans and independents feel, view, want, wish for. Not just the base of one party. That’s the big difference between us.
It's high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first instead of their political party. For way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.
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You love to ignore elections as if they’re totally irrelevant. You love to ignore all of Americans and concentrate on just the Democratic Party or liberal base as if the rest of America doesn’t exist. That’s okay, but I prefer to know or have an idea how elections will turn out, who’ll be in power, who’ll be making policy and who won’t, how all of America, which includes Democrats, Republicans and independents feel, view, want, wish for. Not just the base of one party. That’s the big difference between us. No ... one difference is you continue to misunderstand everything I type. The one thing you'll never find me doing to using anyone's talking points. If it turns out Democrats are saying what I am typing, then I have to conclude they are plagiarizing my comments or they have independently derived the same conclusions. How you concluded I am bloviating Democrat talking points is beyond me as I am the only person who continues to warn people about Trump. Most if not all pundits and Democrats now believe Trump's power is waning. I stand alone against this tide. My comments are based on my analysis of the facts and not on how people responded in a poll. The Big Difference between you and I is, I actually have derived conclusions on current politics, while you continue to hide behind a poll. It's ok to have an opinion ... you can still be interested in who wins an election.
ignorance is the enemy without equality there is no liberty America can survive bad policy, but not destruction of our Democratic institutions
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