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Maybe he made himself a U.S. citizen in his mind, in the same way that Trump declassified all those documents?

Not sure but my sense of it is while they both agree it needs fixing, they do not agree on how to fix it.

But of course I think polls show people believe both parties are the problem, therefore there is no problem.

LOL, let me clarify, Democrats think the Republican Party is the problem. Republicans think the Democratic Party is the problem. It’s independents that think both parties are the problem. To the question 79. Approval of U.S. Congress
Overall, do you approve or disapprove of the way that the United States Congress is handling its job?
All adults, 19% approve of the job congress is doing, 35% of Democrats approve of the job congress is doing, 15% of Republicans and 8% of independents.

https://docs.cdn.yougov.com/6ig3yyjvb9/econTabReport.pdf

The problem with polls is they don't ask the right questions.

The right question is which party proposes reasonable laws for ALL citizens? Viewed form that perspective there is a reason liberals believe conservatives are the problem. Conservatives propose laws which only benefit their constituency i.e. abortion, gun rights, taxes, etc. The underlying problem is political paranoia. Conservatives believe liberals are coming to get them, lock them up, re-educate them, take their guns, cause them to change sex, etc. From this paranoia flows all proposals from the right i.e. they are trying to protect themselves from delusions.

In large part the right IS the problem. However, since the polls say each party blames the other, without the benefit of substance, I can only conclude there is no problem, and therefore independents are obviously delusional.

Delusional, perhaps? When one side sees the other side as delusional is normal. But with just one side or the other viewing them that way, how does that play out at the ballot box? I’m sure most Democrats view Republicans as delusional. You have 30% of the electorate, voters agreeing with you. Add independents who lean Democrats, you’ve upped your total to around 42%. Not enough to win elections though. Do your or the Democrats delusional perspective persuade Republicans, no. Persuade independents who lean Republican, no. How about true or pure independents with no leans? Probably not. These true or pure independents tend to vote candidates, not party or ideology of a party. You seen this last election. They would vote for R Kemp, but not for R Walker. They voted for R Sununu, but not R Bolduc.

Personally, I’d say as long as the Republican Party continues to view Trump as their messiah, they’re not living in the real world of national politics. Trump’s toast nationally, but still king within GOP circles. That’s waning. That’s probably delusional in a way, but more like living in a fantasy land.

I have to wonder if I am typing in a foreign language, that you fail to comprehend anything I type. I DON'T FRAKKING CARE WHAT THE POLLS SAY OR HOW IT TRANSLATE AT THE BALLOT BOX. Git it.

I am typing about a statement of fact, not belief, or what a poll says people believe, or how they will vote or may vote. Just the facts.

70% of Republicans BELIEVE the 2020 election was stolen. They believe it because Trump told them it was true and valid. If there was evidence of it, I would not have typed they are delusional, and yet I did. Why?

So let's review all the evidence they say, they believe proves it.

Dominion voting machines ... no one has been able to find a single flipped vote (o and Smartmatic wasn't even in the states they say prove it) .... stuffed ballot boxes ... investigated ad nauseum without finding stuffed boxes

Watermarks ... Bamboo ... Space lasers ... paper size ... Chinese made thermostats ... internet connections ... servers in Germany ... software written for Chavez .... yep non one has been able to find a singe shred of evidence any of those things took place or existed

Bayesian analysis used by multiple "experts" who say there were anomalies ... and yet none can produce a single vote which was miscounted (add to that mis-application of Bayesian analysis and it multiplies the egregiousness of the arrogance of the "experts")

and lastly, changing voting regulations instituted by local election boards, county courts/commissioners, state courts, but not state legislatures .... yep it turns out each change did not in any way disenfranchise anyone of any political party, and further it has been the practice of all these entities to do the same for many years as directed by state legislatures

In conclusion, without any evidence of a stolen election 70% of Republicans believe what was just proven to be not true nor valid. Therefore I can only conclude Republicans as a whole are delusional. It is a statement of fact.

My conclusion is not partisan as any objective person should have derived the same conclusion based on the facts .... not on the polls.

O and BTW .... this is only one of several characteristics of Republicans which can be used to demonstrate they are delusional and none of it is based on partisan politics. Facts are invariant in time and space.

There is a saying; "If you believe in something hard enough then it can be true!". If you google that one you would be surprised at how many replies were in agreement! I suspect that the Republican mind is simply not dealing well with the so-called reality based on touch, smell, etc. as 'this' (my mind) is much better than that!

I wonder, what if both individual sides sit in wired chairs that get all the physical stuff, blood pressure, heartbeat, breating, etc. Then each side has a screen overhead that reveals all. Neither one is forced to say anything! Should, I suspect, reveal ALL!

The sad part is that there is, as far as I can tell, any way to fix ........

Oh, I got a reply of 3 billion from google! Took only 66 seconds. On reflection ..................!!

Yes, I got it. You don’t give an owl’s hoot what all of America thinks, believes, wants, wishes for etc. Just what your 30% of this country think, believe, want and wishes for. You’re coming in loud and clear. So feel free to ignore any and all of my post as I’m interested in all of American, every American, not just of the democratic party or the liberal persuasion 30%.

Apparently when the facts or the truth hits you in the butt you have to confer with a poll to find out if it really happened.

My 30%!!!!! I represent one person who is only interested in the facts. You must be in the 70% (based on your numbers) who don't care about the facts. My argument was a fact based analysis of a purported stolen election. You apparently must believe the election was stolen, otherwise as an objective person you would have recognized a compelling and non-partisan nature argument.

Best I can figure is you don't care what the facts are, only what people believe. I take a different approach to understanding reality and it starts with knowing what the facts are. You apparently on the other hand need a poll to tell you what people believe reality is.

Look .... sometimes in life one has to tell it as it is. When the dealer turns an ace on the flop, you don't ask the table players for a poll .... you say well that's an ace.

When you say you're interested in what all Americans believe, it sounds as if all you're doing is finding a rationalization for avoiding facing the facts or truth. A "random" group of people completing a questionnaire does not determine the facts or the truth. Truth stands on a foundation of facts, not polls.

So was the 2020 election stolen from Trump? Surely you can accumulate and analyze the resulting facts without consulting a poll? Was there an insurrection on J6 2021? Surely you can accumulate and analyze the resulting facts without consulting a poll? The WHOLE nation is waiting in bated breathe to hear your answers.

"The very people who didn't comply with subpoenas of the House want to be the Speaker of the House and chair of the Judiciary Committee of the House and they want to enforce subpoenas that they wouldn't even answer themselves."

~Elaine Luria, former Democratic Representative, 2nd District, VA and member of
Select Committee to Investigate the January 6 Attack on the United States Capitol