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Roger that Kaine. The real reason behind any impeachment of Biden which I think is bound to happen within the next year is that it is only political payback for the Democrats impeaching Trump, twice. Political Revenge is the real reason. There doesn’t have to be a valid reason or even a good one. Just one that sounds official and presentable to the public at large. Dereliction of duty, Abuse of power, Obstruction of Congress can be used as catch all phrases or charges.

And just like that the Biden Documents Scandal dies...

Justin Rosario of The Banter

"One of these things is not like the others"

On a basic level, Trump lied and fought to keep the docs hidden, Biden and Pence did just the opposite.

A lot of people who lack the appreciation for nuance fail to understand these distinctions.

A simple question Rick, how many people do you think follow the daily grind of Washington’s politics let alone as you put it, the nuances of what is going on or what is happening? Pew Research says 71% of all Americans watch the news at least once a month. That falls to 48% who watch the news regularly. What is regularly, who knows?

And to this question = 93. Political Interest
Some people seem to follow what’s going on in government and public affairs most of the time, whether there’s an election going on or not. Others aren’t that interested. Would you say you follow what’s going on in government and public affairs ...

Most of the time 41%
Some of the time 20%
Only now and then 16%
Hardly at all or never 17%

https://docs.cdn.yougov.com/6ig3yyjvb9/econTabReport.pdf

I’d like to know what sometimes means, once a week, once a month or is that only now and then? One can interpret these numbers serval ways. But I think only around 41% pay attention to politics regularly, the rest don’t. Nuances, good luck.

Sounds like you don't think the phone records of a call for quid pro quo was not an abuse of office. I will point out that at least two Republicans, Rep McCarthy and Sen Graham, both called it quid pro quo before they had read the call record and then conveniently changed their mind after they read the record. And several news reports had Republicans (read that real Republicans not MAGA-heads) saying in private it was definitely quid pro quo. As a whole Senate Republicans could not bring themselves to convict the de facto head of the party and sole leader of THE BASE. Had it been a Democrat president I would have had no choice but to convict ... it was an abuse of office.

While the use of the word "Republican" is generic for anyone associated with the Republican Party. more to the point and more accurate would be the term "MAGA-head adherents" who guide current agendas. I suspect no real Republican would broach the subject of impeachment, especially based on policy differences. So in a general respect I agree. The MAGA-heads have to seek revenge for Trump and will for whatever reason they can imagine file articles of impeachment ... a dealers choice based on current whims of Trump and/or his loyalists congresspeople.

The border issues are complex and I can not imagine any of the MAGA-heads pragmatically understand them. For impeachment articles it would be a distillation of policy differences, but more importantly I see this as a failure of Congress to address the issue. The executive branch is forced to deal with a problem which it can not legally handle in any respect. It is forced to prioritize a variety of initiatives in an attempt to constrain an increasingly large number of illegals and asylum seekers into a manageable program. My conclusion based on evidence from the last 5 administrations is without a Congressional imprimatur every succeeding administration will be faced with the same problems and there will be no solutions. The wall is not a solution ... just a soundbite for the right. We need real solutions from serious people and the MAGA-heads are not serious. With them in charge of the House there will never be a solution.

I believe there are serious people willing to entertain real solutions, but I also believe none are willing to consider any comprehensive solutions as they would fall far outside the purview of the Rio Grande River. I suspect any attempt at real solutions would have to encompass inclusion of all of the Americas. If I have any hope of wearing sunglasses because the future will be bright, we will have to accept the proposition the peoples of this hemisphere are all in the same boat and we all need to man the oars.

This is simply going to be two years of "silly season" from the House. 99% of their bills will die in the Senate. Everybody will realize that the House means nothing and does nothing but keeps trying to burn the place down. They can investigate Hunter's dick pics and refer to the DOJ, but the DOJ's not going to act on BS. They can impeach Biden 700 times, and none of those will be taken up by the Senate. Which seriously diminishes the power and reputation of the House. I predict high turnover well before the two years are up, as DOJ indicts members. Many of whom are committee heads!

The last four year cycle damaged the power and reputation of the Senate, when there was real evidence of serious crimes and they refused to convict Trump strictly on partisan grounds. So much for people's approval of Congress.

Then there's the Judicial Branch's credibility problem, with Flasher Kavanaugh, all the new justices who perjured themselves before the Senate about stare decisis, Alito's Roe decision leak, Thomas' refusal to recuse in cases that involve his wife, Republicans filing suits in single MAGA judge districts who then issue country-wide court orders, etc.

Ponder, you might be correct on all the rest, but if the House impeaches Biden, then the senate must hold a trial. There’s no way around this as it’s a Constitutional requirement. I do agree that most of the bills passed by the Republican House will be tabled by Schumer never to see the light of day in the senate. Also, chaos will reign in the House. This is interesting and describes the Republicans problem.

Republicans confront bitter divide; no clear path forward

https://www.yahoo.com/news/republicans-confront-bitter-divide-no-051507906.html

Unless I missed something, I’m not sure on the reason the DOJ would indict a member of congress. You can’t indict or charge someone with a crime in how they voted in congress even it was not to certify an election. Now if they had ties with or participated with those who stormed the Capital, that would be different and cause for an indictment. How a congressman or senator votes, I don’t think so. Time may prove me wrong on this. Either that or I’m missing what these members did outside of their vote not to certify an election. Which is very possible.

I think that either you're confused or I am not reading this right, because there was no Senate trial of Donald Trump, and the House impeached him twice.

First impeachment trial of Donald Trump

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_impeachment_trial_of_Donald_Trump

Second impeachment trial of Donald Trump

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_impeachment_trial_of_Donald_Trump

You're correct on voting objections. For Republicans they see fraud under every lost election (for which they believe they should have won). For Democrats they see disenfranchisement under every lost election (for which they believe they could have won). No crime.

However, the Capitol cop who texted his insurrectionist buddy, the jury convicted him. Likewise I can see DoJ bringing charges against any Coongressperson who gave guided reconnaissance tours for insurrectionists or texted location of Rep Pelosi to insurrectionists in the moment. This is not to limit possibilities such as people like Rep Perry who were actually involved in the plot to overthrow the government.

My feeling is politics will "trump" any real investigation into congressional involvement in the insurrection i.e. politicians are above the law.