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News from Georgia.

Decisions are imminent': Georgia DA asks judge to delay release of grand jury report on whether to charge Trump with crimes

https://www.yahoo.com/news/decision...-charge-trump-with-crimes-204052741.html

out of curiosity ... is there a state statue which addresses interstate crimes committed over internet (I presume Trump made his calls from Washington DC and using a digital phone). Trump may have only broken possibly only federal laws. However Giuliani and Meadows were in GA.

Not that I know of. In Georgia election interference is based on Trump’s recorded phone call to Secretary of State Raffensperger. Then other actions taken by Trump and his cohorts such as fake electors and lying to the state legislature. One must remember the correct or Biden’s elector slate from Georgia was already certified as the winners.

We’ll have to wait until more details come out. Right now, as I understand it, we’re waiting on the regular grand jury to either recommend charges, indictment or not. The special grand jury has finished its job. Once the regular grand jury recommends indictment, charges which they probably will, the Atlanta DA has the final say. She can either indict depending on the amount of evidence if she considers there’s enough or a good chance to get a guilty verdict or not.

The Atlanta DA thinks going public may hurt her chances at obtaining a guilty verdict along with being as fair as possible to those she may charge. It’s not cut and dried in other words. Legal proceedings never are. I think the Atlanta DA wants to keep this as much as possible in the legal arena and as little as possible in the public arena where opinions will run the gamut, she’s trying to keep politics out of this. I don’t think that’s possible as whoever is charged will say it was done for political reasons, not criminal. Democrat DA vs. Republican defendants or potential defendants.

Did a little research as a lay person.

The use of digital phone coms to defraud a state would be a federal crime. So I think the state is interested in solicitation to commit election fraud. Trump requested and attempted to convince another person to commit election fraud i.e. find (non-existent) votes or throw out legal votes. I suspect he'll get an indictment and it looks from a lay persons vantage, he'll be convicted of the felony. Once GA gets a conviction, I think the DoJ would have no problem indicting on the federal level with use of digital phone to commit interstate fraud of an election.

Yup perfect phone call I would say. Adios Mr Perfect.

So let's see what Fulton Co DA Willis has in mind.

I also think Trump will be indicted here in Georgia at some point. As for conviction, I don’t know. That’s up to the jury. All 12 must come back with a guilty verdict if I understand it right. If so, all it would take is one Trump supporter to make it onto the jury. This is why I sit back, relax and watch. As for the DOJ, that left up to the special counsels. I suppose the DOJ or AG Garland will go along with whatever they recommend.

I hope there are 12 decent Georgians found for a jury to convict Trump.

All the juries in Federal prosecutions of Jan 6th defendants so far have found them guilty. I think very few people in the jury pools actually know about jury nullification. Even if they did support Trump, when the evidence is there and 11 other jurors vote guilty every time they vote, they fold and go along with the others. It's perjury to lie to get on a jury.

There might also be some fear about "giving aid or comfort" to insurrectionists, which carries a 10 year maximum sentence. It would take some cajones to commit the crime the defendants have been charged with! How do you benefit from that?

All that is needed is a Manchurian Juror (read that as a MAGA-head) to nullify a conviction. None of these cult members has to lie to be on a jury ... yes they voted for Trump and yes they believe they can be objective. How is anyone going to prove they were not objective?

It's a real possibility and I suspect even if after a trial that juror is interviewed and says Trump was innocent from the start, I don't think the state would spend the money to prosecute for perjury, overturn one verdict and try a second time. There is a limit to a state's resources.

I think he may escape a state charge but not a federal one.

My belief is he will escape them all. He is above the law.

and rightfully so .... for he is the Chosen One, Savior of America

Glory be to the one on high ... and even more hosannas