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Fox News reversed course this morning SU 03/12/23 and allowed Howard Kurtz to discuss this Dominion v Fox News lawsuit in a 4-minute segment.

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But the fact that some people in the chain of command privately dismissed the fraud claims as nuts or outlandish or insane doesn't necessarily mean Fox couldn't cover and comment on the extremely newsworthy spectacle of a president saying an election was stolen.

Not only was former POTUS Trump lying about the election being stolen, so was Fox News' hosts.

Don't do the defamation crime, if you're too cheap and chintzy to pay the payout dime.


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Variety commissioned a poll showing the Fox News audience is responding to bombshell internal communications between Fox News hosts and executives made public as part of the ongoing lawsuit from Dominion Voting Systems.

Variety commissioned the survey from Maru Group, who questioned “1,524 randomly selected American adults who are Maru Springboard America online panelists.”

The survey was conducted on March 10-12 and divided the participants into two groups - Fox viewers who are aware of the lawsuit and those who are unaware.

According to the poll, 21% percent of Fox News viewers said they trust the network less following the release of evidence in the Dominion case.

Nine percent of Fox viewers said they were watching the network less since those revelations, while other viewers said they have watched Fox more in recent weeks.

The survey found that whether viewers knew about the lawsuit or not, Fox News viewers were more likely to believe the 2020 election was rigged - showing the damage that Fox News has done to our democracy and our elections with their lies.


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Democracy will be saved by voting, resisting autocracy, participating in civics, and pushing back on disinformation - it's our civic duty.

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And if it's solely reliant on just that, there's little to no chance it will survive because we need Congress to have the stomach to act to preserve democracy. The word itself is not mentioned verbatim in the Constitution however the process itself is, because the vote is enshrined in the Constitution and the vote is the core of democracy itself.

Devaluing or crippling the vote is devaluing and crippling the Constitution.


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It's hilarious that Fox News insists that it still be considered a news network, despite clear evidence of the network allowing claims about the 2020 election to be aired that it knew to be false.

There is continued evidence, however, that Fox is not performing the duties of a news network: its continued tactic of looking the other way when it comes to the increasingly radical rhetoric of former President Donald Trump. This tactic undermines claims Fox is anything but a propaganda outlet.

Fox News cares more about appeasing its audience than reporting the truth. The network, from the top down, is cravenly afraid of angering viewers. As Rupert Murdoch as stated, "It's not about red and blue...it's about the green."


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A lawsuit filed yesterday by Fox News producer Abby Grossberg has thrown a wrench into its defense against a defamation lawsuit by Dominion Voting Systems.

The New York Times is reporting Grossberg alleges that she was coached by Fox News attorneys to give misleading testimony under oath in order to shift blame away from the network for airing multiple false claims about Dominion.

Per the Grossman lawsuit:

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"Fox News Attorneys acted as agents and at the behest of Fox News to misleadingly coach, manipulate, and coerce Ms. Grossberg to deliver shaded and/or incomplete answers during her sworn deposition testimony, which answers were clearly to her reputational detriment but greatly benefitted Fox News."

Grossberg's lawsuit claims Fox News tried to make Grossberg and Maria Bartiromo the scapegoats for the network’s coverage of Dominion Voting Systems. In the weeks after the 2020 presidential election, Fox News hosts and guests - including Bartiromo and Carlson - made dubious or outright false claims that the company had helped rig the contest against then-POTUS Donald Trump.

This lawsuit completely upends Fox News' defense for the upcoming Dominion lawsuit. smile


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Judge sends Dominion lawsuit against Fox News to trial (Politico)

"It is “CRYSTAL clear” that Fox aired false statements about the voting company after the 2020 election, the judge wrote."

"Judge Eric Davis concluded that Dominion Voting Systems, which makes election equipment, had proven that Fox aired a series of false claims about the company, but that depositions, internal emails and text messages had not established whether Fox acted with “actual malice” by carrying statements on its air that it knew were false or likely so.

The evidence is “CRYSTAL clear that none of the Statements relating to Dominion about the 2020 election are true,” Davis wrote. Fox’s false statements included assertions that the company was controlled by Venezuela and implemented a bizarre algorithm to boost Democrats’ vote count under certain conditions, the judge said.

Some uncertainty remained about who at Fox authorized specific broadcasts and what those people knew or believed at the time, Davis continued.

“The Court does not weigh the evidence to determine who may have been responsible for publication and if such people acted with actual malice – these are genuine issues of material fact and therefore must be determined by a jury,” the judge wrote in his81-page ruling ."

"While the Court must view the record in the light most favorable to Fox, the record does not show a genuine issue of material fact as to falsity. Through its extensive proof, Dominion has met its burden of showing there is no genuine issue of material fact as to falsity. Fox therefore had the burden to show an issue of material fact existed in turn. Fox failed to meet its burden. The evidence developed in this civil proceeding demonstrates that is CRYSTAL clear that none of the Statements relating to Dominion about the 2020 election are true. Therefore, the Court will grant summary judgment in favor of Dominion on the element of falsity."

By so ruling, the judge essentially eliminated much of Fox's "defense" claiming "ambiguity". That is going to be a very, very high hurdle to surmount at trial. But he didn't stop there. He also found "no issue of material fact" that Fox published the falsities. " FNN is not a passive entity. FNN controls what is broadcast on its various networks. FNN does this through its employees as agents of FNN. Thus, regardless of who within FNN is responsible for publication, FNN did in fact publish the statements to its viewers."

Fox is screwed. Fox should be.


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Those emails and text messages seem pretty malicious to me. I think the judge just wants to cover his butt by having a jury say it instead of him.


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I just wanna hear the testimony of Hannity, Carlson, Bartiromo, etc ... especially why they would lie to their base audience just to dupe them for ratings.


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very disappointed we did not hear the testimony from Fox "news" hosts, Hannity, Carlson, Ingraham, Bartiromo, Dobbs, etc confessing their lies to their viewers .... all for ratings .... because the MAGA wants to hear lies and disinformation


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