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#348018 01/17/24 07:49 PM
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I wonder. I watch a lot of stuff on TV about politics. I have noticed that there are a lot of Democratic folks and they are all whining about the lack of Democrats actually spending time telling the electorate just what president Biden has been doing (he has been doing A LOT!) Its generally agreed that many of those that support Trump do that because they are ignorant. The Democrats, in their wisdom, are seem determined to keep them that way.

I seem to be spending a lot of my life just wondering what the hell is going on and this is one of my wonders. The Republicans, and the media, tells is everything about Trump and the Republicans and their lack of doing anything. This just seems odd to me. I consider that we have Trump, for instance, because media gave him to us. First with his show and then all the rest. There isn't a day that passes that the media gives me more info on Trump and his believers. Several days pass with nary a word that the Democrats are doing one damned thing. I have written to my Democratic elected and ask them and am ignored. Its as if the Dems, and the media, have decided to not actually report on anything the Dems have done, are doing, are planning to do. Its as if its all a big secret. Biden will, very occasionally give a little talk. When that happens we are told about it but its not shown (they show Trump doing the Trump thing at the drop of a hat).

I just find it a bit strange. Its almost as if the Dems have decided that winning is not very much at the top of the list. Its a bit like my wife, who was helping at the Dem office. She noticed that there were no signs out and asked if she could have some to put up at our house. She was told that she certainly could and it would only cost twenty bucks a sign. She quit working there and was seriously upset and never went back. The strange thing is that she worked her way through college working for the Democratic party.

So, we get at least an hour of Trump every night and, sometimes, 5 minutes of Democratic stuff. I have written my Democratic folks several times. They always reply with a request for more money. I don't write them often and see no reason to send money when I know they have some which for some reason, they just won't spend.

Just a thought........

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I disagree that Dems think that winning is not at the top of the list. The issue is that MEDIA is not telling the story. The media makes more money if things are dire and the electorate is anxious. There just is not much money is sharing good news, I'm afraid.

To validate my point, why do you think the media is promoting Trump 24/7? Because the guy is an ahole and keeping the electorate fearful he might get into office again gives them eyeballs and ad revenue.


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First, The Media. I can remember when the heads of a variety of media outlets were all, literally, delighted with Trump. I remember one who referred to Trump as "somebody who consistently can increase income" (and that was just for starters). Basically, we have to deal with Trump because of the medium. I have come to the conclusion that they are seriously responsible for Trump and his cult. Trump has figured out, for instance, how to get exposure for free. If truth was told Trump is because media thinks he is good for their bottom line (and little else). I am actually not sure that media is not responsible for some of the damage Trump has done to individuals. Given that we have lots of ambulance chasers out there we will find out eventually as they would never leave something like that one go without a try.

My problem with it all is that the Democrats simply do not seem to be interested in fighting back. I don't know if they think its not worth the trouble, etc. or that they are just plain lazy. The Republicans, for instance, will get stuff on TV every day, without fail. The Democrats do not seem to get the same degree of attention. Its as if the Democrats, unlike Trump, are really not all that interesting. Its also why what Biden has managed to get done is not explained to those who are currently incredibly, and dangerously ignorant.

I personally fear a Trump run presidency. He tells everybody what he is going to do but those who are ignorant just ignore the facts and love that which is not only factual but flat out lies. When TV talks about this they too seem to wonder why that is. The fact is that the ignorant are ignorant because nobody has taken the trouble to explain the truth so that they can understand. My current hope is that a couple of the things that Trump is in court for actually gets dealt with which may help the ignorant even a little bit. If anybody is going to do that it should be the Democrats. Every day they should expose one or more lies and falsehoods from the night before. If nothing else that much might help and Trump gives them all they need from the previous nights lies and silly. Right now the man lies and is simply ignored by the Democrats because they all know that they are lies and that's as far as it goes.

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@JGW:

There IS NO "liberal media".
There hasn't been for well over two generations.

The reason why Democrats are ignored and Trump is beloved is because the owners of all the parent corporations are fans of Trump, and fans of corporate fascism. What they fear is outright dictatorial fascism, but THEY THINK that THEY can CONTROL him and prevent that from happening.

They see him as a ratings bonanza, which he has been, and they intend to milk it to the last drop.
And if he takes power they are perfectly willing to act as a functional source of mob revenue TO Trump and a source of media adoration to keep him happy and make him feel loved.

The country is a casino and they believe that they have the winning chips and they intend to collect.


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Just thought I would update this. It now seems that the Democrats are going to be all over and out Trump (Its actually Trump and NOT the Republicans (which is, exactly, how Trump wants it))

So this is to warn everybody that they are going to see Democrats actually try and win an election. I seriously want them to win, REALLY! I am not sure when this is going to occur. So far I haven't seen what they say is going to happen. There will be videos, and ads, and doors knocked, etc. I am waiting with baited breath and VERY excited!!

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Yep, you are right. I remember, when Trump was running before and one of the heads of a network said, right out loud, that Trump was a goldmine for his network and he would show any Trump stuff he could. We got Trump because the media gave him to us and they are still doing it. The strange thing is that I am blaming the media when the simple fact is that the American voting public seem to love to watch him in 'action'. There is nothing one can do about that.

I continue to wonder if American has not somehow found, and been addicted to 'dumb', in a big way. We will see in November and it scares the hell out of me.

I should add one last. When Trump left office virtually all, talking heads rated him as the WORST PRESIDENT IN THE HISTORY OF AMERICA! I wonder if the addiction of 'dumb' includes a failure in political memory as well.

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I've come to the conclusion that one-third of the country is suffering from "Oppositional Defiant Disorder" and they want to reelect Trump as their rage outlet.


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Either case..... We both agree that things are not, exactly, right. I find it all pretty strange. When I added to my house, several years ago, the interest rate of 12% now its 7 something and everybody is whining about it. Biden has done more than most presidents yet people keep on saying he is a mistake as he is too old and frail and has mental problems - basic crap. Yep, something is wrong!

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Originally Posted by Jeffery J. Haas
I've come to the conclusion that one-third of the country is suffering from "Oppositional Defiant Disorder" and they want to reelect Trump as their rage outlet.
Probably more have that defiant mood. Perhaps half or even a bit more. But they don’t want Trump to regain the white,house, they also don’t want Biden reelected either. A Harvard/Harris poll showed 58% of all Americans want a new president. That new president doesn’t include the present one nor the former one. Then this from Pew Research - Reflecting their dissatisfaction with the Biden-Trump matchup, nearly half of registered voters (49%) say that, if they had the ability to decide the major party candidates for the 2024 election, they would replace both Biden and Trump on the ballot. Other than this, there’s a ton of great info in the Pew Research Paper/poll.

https://www.pewresearch.org/politic...roadly-critical-of-both-biden-and-trump/

https://harvardharrispoll.com/key-results-april-3/

You can also add that 64% of all Americans want another choice other than Biden and Trump. This from Time - The 2024 presidential election is a rematch between one man widely seen as too old for the job and another man widely seen as too dangerous. The prospect has left much of the country feeling both paralyzed and horrified. Call it the Dread Election.

A Yahoo survey last fall found that the most common feeling this election cycle—across age, gender, and party leaning—is “dread.” More than 4 in 10 American adults said they felt “dread” about the upcoming contest, more than the proportion that responded with words like “exhaustion,” “depression,” or “indifference.” Nearly half of women, white voters, and Democratic leaning voters say they dread the looming presidential rerun. Republicans have slightly less trepidation (their dread hovered in the mid-thirties) but they’re not in a great mood either. Strong majorities of both parties express dissatisfaction with their choices.

https://time.com/6883103/the-dread-election/

I’d say it’s closer to 60% of all Americans who don’t want this rematch. Defiant or dread or wanting someone other than Biden and Trump, take your choice of words or phrases.

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It's high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first instead of their political party. For way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.
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