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LOL .... Really Kaine.

Pointing out the obvious to ignorant people doesn't work. All they would do is deflect and defend Trump and direct the blame for failed policies at .... Kaine. Yep you caused the economy to collapse because Trump takes no responsibility for anything he does unless it results in MAGA singing Trump's praises.

You can not embarrass with these characters.

In 2020 Trump's advisors suggested he employ the Insurrection Act to send the military to polling stations and sequester ballots, as well as using the military to shoot protestors, and for use along the border. He was talked out of it by men with integrity and a belief in the Constitution. No longer will he have such men and now he has a foreign precedent from a democracy on what to do when Trump says the opposition party is promoting anti-democratic sentiments and the fourth estate is promoting "fake news".

Folks there are no safe guards. What you say the courts will ... what will the courts do? Use harsh legal language condemning unconstitutional acts. So what. The courts can't force him to stop. O you say the military will not comply .... really. Half or more of the military are MAGA. They will do what Trump wants and consider the orders as legal. The other half will stand idly by complaining it is not their prerogative to be employed in domestic matters .... o you think they will resort to war against the half following Trump's orders .... really.

If you thought it would be just bad and you can tolerate it ... well you just may have a bullseye painted on your back. This will be far worse than anyone thought.

It can't happen in America ... I still hear those words ringing in my ears as I protested ... Trump is not the normal politician. He is anti democratic and will bring fascism to America. Once on this path I am not sure there will be another election for those who still believe it can't happen in America to change direction. You may have just witnessed the last free and fair election in America.

I think that what we have left, now, is the congress. We lost the senate and I am not sure about the house but we still have folks there and, hopefully, they are working hard just deciding what to do next. In other words we can whine and be upset but there is little anybody can really do and all those in congress can do is try without getting the other side all out of shape. So, if you have a member serving send a note of admiration and hope which might help. I would suggest prayer but that works, I think, more for the one that prays than all the rest.

Anyway, I think we now get to deal with wrongs which, in time, might work. They had a great time attacking a

I keep thinking of what we are being told. Now the right wants to stop stuff like shots for kids. The few that have already gone down that path are getting results. More Whooping cough, and one they thought they had beat (the one where you get to live in a steel tank to live). If they can stop all shots its gonna get REAL bad REAL quick, Hopefully, unfortunately, stuff ;like that just might help a little. We are now being told that most in the right list to take over are all white ane that too might be interesting. If all happens what is being told to us now I wold think that we have things that might help us.

It pretty bad when we are counting on a variety of disasters to save us politically. That being said remember, the other side spent the last 4 years attacking the government which made the United States the greatest economy in the world. One can only wonder what happens next. Remember too. Trump took over another time when there was a great economy - which he 'took care of'. That said, we gonna have a chance coming up!

FAITH!!

The next four years of Trump will be completely damaging to the U.S. and our democracy. FBI spying on citizens and getting back at those who told the truth about Trump. The military used to control protesters. The FDIC insurance going away. Kids dying from polio.

America will be a fascist oligarchy for the rich, just like Russia is today. This is what America voted for 2024.

I seriously do not understand how the "Deep State" is going to allow this orange effing-idiot to destroy our country. He's talking about jailing Liz Cheney, Michelle Obama (...because Michelle said mean things about him). Dick Cheney is going to allow his daughter to be jailed for speaking the truth about Trump?!? Something is very off here....

"Something is very off here...."

That's the way it is with psychopathic cult leaders.

Here’s a list of 7 prominent democrats who may be at the top of the 2028 democratic party nomination race for the presidency.

7 rising Democratic leaders to watch

https://www.yahoo.com/news/7-rising-democratic-leaders-watch-124550429.html

My favorite isn’t among the list. Senator Tammy Duckworth of Illinois. But my second choice is, Andy Beshear of Kentucky. From what I’ve read, many democrats are saying they need to go further left, go with a progressive. I think they’re wrong. Election wise, I think they’ll need a candidate that appeals to the moderates, independents, swing voters which many in the progressive wing turns them off. Notice, I said election wise. Keep in mind that in order to govern, first one must win an election. Keeping that in mind, I’m looking at this from an election standpoint, not an ideological one. Who I think can attract the most voters. Keep in mind, independents, swing voters these days make up approximately 42% of the electorate. A plurality of voters with both major parties base down to around 28/29% at least according to Gallup and Pew Research. Fact is both major parties have been shrinking slowly with independents rising from 30% in 2006 up to the present 42% of the electorate.

I have been watching the Republicans and its kinda interesting. The closer they get to getting Trump signed in the more they are backing up here and there. They still are out for the bad people here illegally, etc. but one can only wonder. The richest guy in the world is now supporting letting more people with skills into the nation and Trump is fairly silent on it all as he is on some other things as well.

Perhaps he remembers his past failures and might actually be thinking of actually fixing some instead of creating more. We will have to just wait and see what happens.

In spite of the above Trump still wants to do away with the limits of spending (called something else but that is, as far as I know, exactly that). I don't know how that works but know that he has no problem running up a debt. He did it when he was in charge before and wants to do it again. Money is interesting. Its really great when everybody believes that the money in question is worth something - I have always wondered what happens when everybody doesn't like a specific money anymore - not good I expect.

On the other hand the Republicans are currently on a charge to reduce our debt. Well, some Republicans. I suspect there are fewer of those than those who don't mind spending.

Its all entertaining. Just thought I would have a say for absolutely no reason. Oh, one last. When Trump left last time around 150 American Historians said that Trump was the very worst president the United States ever had.

As usual - we will see - and hope a lot!

When it comes to the national debt, neither party gives an owl’s hoot about it. The difference is most democrats are honest about it admitting they don’t care as they continually spend and spend. The republicans are all rhetoric about doing something about it while continually spending and spending. Nothing but hot air.

The main problem are the people. They want all their benefits from the government without having to pay for them. They don’t want their taxes raised and they don’t want a cut in spending or decreased benefits. The American people are more than willing to pass on to their kids, grand kids, great grand kids and those unborn the responsibility of paying for all the benefits, programs, etc. we receive today. Every elected official knows that raising taxes and or cutting spending, programs, benefits would be a certain election loser. Hence, nothing will ever be done about the national debt until its too late and then it won’t matter.