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Exactly rporter. A lot of the non-MAGA, non-Trumpers voted for him simply because they felt they were better off 4 years ago than today. Which is not surprising since this group of voters always go to the challenger. While republicans and democrats vote the letter behind the name regardless of who the candidates are, those non-affiliated tend to vote their personal situation. Better off today, they’ll vote for the incumbents or party in power, worst off than 4 years ago, they’ll vote for the challenger or party out of power. Not much thought is given to anything else if any. 22% of those who voted based their vote on being worst off today than they were 4 years ago, Trump won those voters 76-23 over Harris.

What so many people don’t realize, to many Americans presidential elections are strictly a referendum on the sitting president. If they feel their personal situation is better off, they’ll vote for the sitting president or his party, if worse off, for the challenger or the party out of power.

I agree, but I am still have a slight hope it will survive enough to be repaired and that we do not fall into a full dictatorship.

Trump is doing a really incredible making sure he is in the news working the Democrats over. The Democrats, of course, being well mannered, and taking it on the chin with kindness and love. So, again, the Democrats are making damned sure they do not anger or say anything that might upset Mr. Trump. They are, in other words, doing everything they can to make sure the Republicans are happy and, apparently never lie nor make bad decisions.

It is REALLY time for the Dems to get off their dead butts and do something. One would think, for instance, that when Trump blamed the latest plane disaster on the Democrats might have, at the very least, fought back but, I guess, they are smarter than I (or just do not want to even try).

I also apologize. I suspect many agree, its been noted all over, over and over, and they just chug down the block as if nothing is happening. Mr Trump continues to work, very hard, to get EVERYBODY upset and is doing a great job. I guess the Democrats may have decided that he is doing such a great job that they will just keep their mouths shut and watch the firework. The Dems know, for instance, that their party is responsible for making Trump the president because something like 30% of them were too busy to even vote! We hear how the Democrats are going to destroy themselves. I always find that one strange. 30% of the Dems can't even vote! ALL the Republicans VOTED! These days, whenever I talk to a Democrat that tells me the he/she never voted I always say "Thank you!" They always ask "Why?" I always reply; "For making Trump president". Their response is normal. They stare a little bit and then get the hell out of my way. I used to think they might care. I am no longer even sure about that one.

I fear for us all and hope...............

I’ve heard and read about several reasons why democrats didn’t turnout last year. The problem is they’re some pundit’s opinion. You can’t poll those who didn’t vote.
1 Harris wasn’t liked much by democrats which was pointed out that in the 2020 nomination races, she was the first one to withdraw before the first primary was even held. Harris had less than one percent support. Then during her time as Biden’s VP, Democrats were giving her only an 80% favorability rating, 84% job approval, 10 points below what other VP’s had received from members of their own party. After her loss to Trump, her favorable rating dropped to 73% among Democrats.

2 No primary. The democratic base didn’t have a choice or say who would be their nominee after Biden withdrew. Several pundits theorized that Harris wouldn’t have been the democratic nominee if primaries were held. She was chosen by the democratic party leadership, not the base.

3 Harris’s failure to come up with new ideas. She even stated she’d do nothing different that what Biden was doing. This is in my opinion true and a huge problem when VP’s run to replace a sitting president of their own party. Especially an unpopular president which most Americans deemed his policies and handling of the issues wasn’t working. VP’s who lost, Nixon, 1960, Humphrey 1968, Gore 2000, Harris 2024. You could include Ford 1976, Nixon’s VP, but was president in 1976. This was Ford’s first election as he had been appointed and confirmed as president by the congress. Mondale, Carter’s VP, lost to Reagan in 1984. G.H.W. Bush. 1988 was the only VP since 1960 to win the election to replace a president of his party.

4 my own opinion, Harris campaign was based solely on the fact she wasn’t Trump. The ineptness of her campaign mirrored that of Hillary Clinton 2016 and G.H.W. Bush’s 1992 campaigns. She didn’t give the voter a reason to vote for her, just against Trump. You had 15% of democrats disapproving of the job Biden had done, a much higher percentage than normal for a sitting president of their own party. Throw in the fact Harris was viewed by 17% unfavorably by her own party members, you have a situation where many dissatisfied democrats decided to stay home and not vote instead of voting for Trump. They still disliked Trump and didn’t want him, but were dissatisfied with both Harris and Biden’s performance. Just a theory.

As for Trump, a plurality of Americans approves of the job he has done for his first 9 days in office.

https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/approval/donald-trump/approval-rating

As for what the democrats can do, the republicans control the presidency, the house and the senate. There’s not much realistically they can do. Letting Trump be Trump may be the best approach. His job approval is basically an even split. This is supposedly during the honeymoon period. It’s bound to get worse. The democrats don’t have the bully pulpit or means to be heard by the masses as a whole who are now not interested much in politics if at all. As time goes by, these people will make up their own minds without any input from the democrats. Trump will return to his very low job approval as he had during his first term. Give it time.

Running a Vice President, to be President is just a bad idea. I think you have already given thoughts on history of that one - just not a good idea. I kinda liked Harris as she was kinda selling a nice story but most growed up are not real interesting in nice stories.

I also keep wondering why in the world somebody would even vote for Trump. This has been worked over pretty good but, still, just makes no sense to me.

When you think about it all one thing becomes pretty clear. The Democratic party just seems to not be very interesting and that got proven in the last election. I have no idea what they are going to do but I do know they should do something (I have, no idea, what it might be but they should, while they are trying to figure it out, fight back (at the very least).

Should also mention that Trump is scaring the hell out of me. When he is through with Canada, for instance, there are whole parts of the united states which will no longer have any electricity and water (amongst other things). Then there is the oil import thing as well which, evidently, will make the price of gas REAL expensive. His attack on Mexico will also raise prices on lots of stuff. I think his plan is to get more money coming in so he can do clever things and kinda screw them who are not rich.

Anyway............