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These days all the tv outputs show piles of folks a little upset with Trump. By this is assume that he is loosing support. They are doing dangerous things, such as firing the folks that take care of our stuff nuclear and then being unable to get them back because they lost names, etc. Then I think they did find them. There are also piles of people getting reported every day. Then on top of all of that all the red states are getting worked over rather well and they are REALLY getting a bit upset as well.

All that being said, if I am even half right in my thoughts it still seems that the man should be losing support.

Oh, I just remembered, Trump is a man who has a long history of failures when it comes to business. So far he seems to have done well with politics but it dawns on me that politics just may be another business to fail and, if he keeps it up I suspect he will do a really impressive failure yet again and we all get to experience the results.

Trump is difficult. He lies, he fails, he may have money or may not, he runs his mouth and just keeps on going. Gotta give him credit - he is not a quitter...........

The numbers don’t show Trump is losing support if one goes by his overall job approval/disapproval numbers. What I think is happening with those protesters is they’re the ones who were angry and upset Trump won are now becoming angrier and more upset at Trump and his shenanigans. There’s still a plurality of Americans who approve of the job Trump has done so far as there was back on 20 Jan.

https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/approval/donald-trump/approval-rating

Those who view Trump favorably or unfavorably are also just about the same today as when he first took office.

https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/favorability/donald-trump

Here’s some comparisons regarding Trump’s job approval/disapproval
28 Jan 87% of Harris voters disapprove/93% of Trump voters approved, 82% of democrats disapprove/94% of republicans approved of the job Trump was doing after one week in office.

Today 91% of Harris voters disapprove/92% of Trump voters approve, 91% of democrats disapprove/90% of republicans approve. A slight difference, but given the polls have a MOE of plus or minus 3 points, there’s really no movement or no movement outside the MOE.

I expected Trump’s overall job approval to drop ever since he started issuing these executive orders, which going by the numbers hasn’t happened. I suppose I shouldn’t be surprised or that my expectations are not being met. I expected the 91 federal indictments to drive Trump out of the race. I expected the two guilty verdicts in the two New York civil cases to drop his polling number drastically. None of that Happened. Besides throwing out conventional wisdom and traditional standards when it comes to Trump, I ought to throw my crystal ball out the window too.

LOL

How many times do I have to type I told you so?????

We are in Trump reality. It is a delusional world, populated with delusional people (MAGA). When I say they believe Trump was sent by God .... believe what I type. MAGA will not abandon Trump. They believe he is doing the work of God. Yeah cults and all that. The first thing one has to do is accept it as fact Trump is the textbook case for which narcissistic personality disorder was formulated. The second thing to is recognize Trump is media savvy as all good cult leaders (manipulators) are. The third thing to accept is MAGA is driven by bigotry. Included with that animus is the internal perception they have been disenfranchised by cultural issues by Washington. Fourth, Trump is their voice, including their retribution for their perceived grievances. I'm riffing here so I may have missed a salient point or two.

Trump is abundantly transparent and predictable. Take an issue, consult the narcissists handbook and voila you know what he'll do to receive the results of praise he seeks to satisfy his narcissism.

I understand MAGA won’t leave Trump. MAGA makes up approximately a quarter of the electorate and about half, give or take of those who voted for Trump. This non-MAGA half thought they had it better 4 years ago under Trump than under Biden and the democrats. Many didn’t care for Trump, but in their view their personal standards of living were better. These non-MAGA types made up a good portion of the 57% of all Americans who disapproved of Biden’s job performance. Many had rejected Trump for his poor job performance after his first term, now they were rejecting Biden and the democrats. They weren’t voting for Trump, they were voting against Biden, Harris and the democrats in their minds.

It's this last half of Trump voters, the non-MAGA’s who I expected to desert Trump. To disapprove of the job he’s doing. I don’t expect MAGA to leave Trump. You’re correct there, MAGA types won’t no matter what. Maybe not enough time has passed. We’re not talking political junkies who pay constant attention to politics. We’re talking about casual observers who really don’t care what’s happening until it affects them personally. I’m not giving up hope, I do think eventually this half of Trump voters, the non-MAGA portion will come around. Especially after a few months when rising prices and inflation hasn’t come down. Sometimes politics or how a president or party governs has to affect them personally. We’ll see.

Still holding on to the old beliefs.

Do you think it really matters what these folks will think if the economy affects them? .... here's the other shoe ... if their vote does not count. The only states which matter in an election are the swing states. When Republicans ( read that as Trump loyalists) write laws which disenfranchise voting blocks which vote Democrat, and have election boards packed which Trump loyalists, willing to cheat in an election are in play, what chance does any candidate have but Trump? O yes I said it. Trump will run for a 3rd term because Congress will write the law.

Think Alternative Reality ... Trump delusional reality .... loyalists doing whatever he says ... etc. Do you really believe Trumpists will allow a Democrat to ever win another election? They have the power and you better believe they intend on keeping it.

Yeah, I think our democracy is pretty much over. It will take a miracle, a true miracle if they exist, for us not to fall!

Now my gut is acting up again and it's telling me soon, once he finishes his burning of the Constitution - I expect 8-10 months from now, around Christmas time - I think we will see Trump take us out of NATO and join alliances with Russia and China! They will become our allies. And at least half of the voting public will be fine with it.

You guys thought I was full of the caca de toro .... "Long Live the King"

In the deluge of executive orders, I missed the one where he ordered a stop to enforcement of FCPA (Foreign Corrupt Practices Act) opening up the floodgates of corruption, bribery, and graft. You know, all the things that Trump has based his business model on.

Of course, they are selling this as a boon for consumers, because everyone knows no company would ever pass on the costs of a multi-billion dollar bribe to consumers!

AP Article on FCPA

There is of course a reason Trump got rid of everyone, including people in DoJ, who could possibly investigate what he is doing. Once they are all gone he is free to break the law without impunity. Not only will he not be investigated by the federal government but not by Congress. All he has to do is spread the SC magical handkerchief over the crime and he is protected by an "official act".

Vive le roi ... yes Trump is king .... Democracy is dead ...

Just a thought, but I have to wonder, if at some time Trump will have to abandon his base. In order for him to take total control, it will have to be over those that oppose him as well as those that supported him.

At that point, he will have total control over the entire country! Is he that narcistic?