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The idea of state's right is a basic part of our system of government. It is the idea of a Federal government. State's rights are what Thomas Jefferson, James Madison and other Founding Fathers intended how our country should be governed. The idea of state's rights was corrupted by the founders of the Confederacy because they, mistakenly, believed that a state had the right to decide whether or not it should have slavery. That IS NOT what state's rights is about. States are supposed to have more power than they do now but the idea that state's rights could or should trump anyone's right to freedom is a corruption of the idea in the worst possible way. What has happened is that those who want to increase the power of our central or national government use the mistaken, incorrect and dishonest view of the Confederacy on state's rights and use it portray anyone who supports one of the basic principles of our government as a rascist.
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There is no evidence from competent economists to demonstrate that the Reagan tax cuts did anything to spur the economy. That is not true, unless of course you consider a Nobel laureate, Milton Friedman, in economics as incompetent. In this article Mr. Friedman is talking about the tax cuts of Pres. Bush but the idea of taxes cuts is a very old one. Then there is the basic common sense idea that supports the idea of tax cuts. When citizens are allowed to keep more of their money the will use it in their own best interest. Anyone that oposes tax cuts wants to increase the size and power of our government. When the size and power of our government is increased our FREEDOM is decreased!
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ahhh i see now.
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You know, Senator, that statement has no basis, don't you? Then show me any complaints about deficit spending made by Democrats when they controlled Congress. Show me any attempt by a Democrat to reduce the deficit when they controlled Congress.
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The idea of state's right is a basic part of our system of government. It is the idea of a Federal government....
What has happened is that those who want to increase the power of our central or national government use the mistaken, incorrect and dishonest view of the Confederacy on state's rights and use it portray anyone who supports one of the basic principles of our government as a rascist. The first part of that statement I wholly agree with, and indeed, brought a case to the United States Supreme Court with that argument. We have a federal government, the United States of America, and in much the same way that there is a separation of powers between the branches of the federal government, there is a separation of authority between the federal (central) government and the authority of the various State governments. The federal authority is a government of limited powers, while the State governments have general police powers - for example, the federal government can not abridge the authority of citizens to keep and bear arms, but the State governments have no such prohibition. Where I strongly disagree, however, is in the last sentence of your post. The point that was made earlier was not in support of a stronger central government at all, it was about the specific use of the "States' Rights" argument by Ronald Reagan to promote a subtext of racial division. There is no historical doubt that the Confederacy used the argument of States' Rights to promote their authority to preserve slavery, nor that later politicians, e.g. George Wallace, used that same argument of States' Rights explicitly to preserve segregation. Ronald Reagan's use was more subtle, but no less meaningful. I agree with you that it is regrettable that support of States' Rights has been coopted as it has, but it would be naive of me to deny that it has happened.
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Here, as elsewhere, people are outraged at what feels like a rigged game -- an economy that won't respond, a democracy that won't listen, and a financial sector that holds all the cards. - Robert Reich
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Corruption in the Clinton administration The Clintons, to adapt a line from Dr. Johnson, were not only corrupt, they were the cause of corruption in others. Yet seldom in America have so many come to excuse so much mendacity and malfeasance as during the Clinton years. Here are some of the facts that have been buried.
RECORDS SET
- The only president ever impeached on grounds of personal malfeasance
- Most number of convictions and guilty pleas by friends and associates*
- Most number of cabinet officials to come under criminal investigation
- Most number of witnesses to flee country or refuse to testify
- Most number of witnesses to die suddenly
- First president sued for sexual harassment.
- First president accused of rape.
- First first lady to come under criminal investigation
- Largest criminal plea agreement in an illegal campaign contribution case
- First president to establish a legal defense fund.
- First president to be held in contempt of court
- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions
- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions from abroad
- First president disbarred from the US Supreme Court and a state court. This reference to the Clinton administration is appropriate because with Sen. Clinton running for the presidency how much of the corruption of her husband's administration will she bring back? Already she has had to return $850,000 in illegal campaign contributions. How much in illegal campaign contributions did the Reagan administration have to return?
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So according to you any use of the phrase "state's rights by a conservative is racist?
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Then show me any complaints about deficit spending made by Democrats when they controlled Congress. Show me any attempt by a Democrat to reduce the deficit when they controlled Congress. OK, start here: Balanced Budget Amendment 0n 4 May 1936, Representative Harold Knutson (R-Minnesota) introduced a resolution in support of a Constitutional Amendment that would have placed a per capita ceiling on the federal debt in peacetime... and Johnson also pushed for Congressional enactment of a surtax as well as other tax increases which allowed him to leave office in 1969 with a balanced budget (plus a small surplus) on the books. This was the last time the United States would see a balanced budget for nearly three decades.
[edit] Nixon and Carter
Deficit spending resumed under Richard Nixon, who had become president by the time that the 1969 surplus was known. Nixon's advisors chose to fight inflation rather than to maintain a balanced budget. Nixon was famously quoted as saying, "We are all Keynesians now," with regard to the budget deficit that his administration began to accumulate during years of mild recession. (He also imposed the first peacetime wage and price controls, mandatory petroleum allotments, and many other features of a planned economy).
With the distractions of the Watergate scandal and the budget deficit relatively small, however, most criticisms were sidelined until the administration of Jimmy Carter. During Carter's presidency, the term "stagflation" enjoyed widespread use as the economy stagnated even among increased inflation rates. This economic situation had been previously unheard of in the United States where increasing prices and wages had generally been seen during times of economic growth. Republicans began to make much mention of "Democratic deficits" and proposed the Balanced Budget Amendment as a cure. This was politically costless for them as long as they controlled neither house of Congress nor the Presidency, as they knew that it would not be enacted.
During this time period, even many liberal Democrats began to call for a Balanced Budget Amendment, including Governor Jerry Brown of California, who ran for president against Carter in 1980, and then-Congressman Paul Simon, who, upon his election to the U.S. Senate, would write the version of the amendment that came closest to passing. I can provide more details as required, but the reality is that deficits have not been a problem in Democratic administrations. They seem to balloon, however, whenever a Republican occupies the White House. I keep thinking of a saying about "putting your money where your mouth is..." whenever I hear a Republican talking about deficits. They only raise the issue when it is politically expedient, but never put it in practice.
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So according to you any use of the phrase "state's rights by a conservative is racist? The way President Reagan used the term, yes.
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