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There is no existence without property.
He assumes that millions of people losing their liberty, their existence in a global economic depression is somehow less catastrophic then if you added some irrelevancies like global flooding and political, social, environmental and biological collapse. Everything but the flooding will necessarily happen if there is a global economic depression.
It's like choosing between getting hit in the head with a sledgehammer or a wreckingball.
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There is no existence without property.
He assumes that millions of people losing their liberty, their existence in a global economic depression is somehow less catastrophic then if you added some irrelevancies like global flooding and political, social, environmental and biological collapse. Everything but the flooding will necessarily happen if there is a global economic depression.
It's like choosing between getting hit in the head with a sledgehammer or a wreckingball. You'll have to do better than that... as it stands, your "argument" is a non sequitur, you mention existence and property as equivalents, without justification, and then equate economic depression with liberty and existence, again without justification, and in fact without any link between the two (except 'existence'?) In any event, I might very well survive an attack with a sledgehammer, but a wrecking ball, well... it's big, and maybe I could get out of the way? Given enough warning anyway... and assuming I'm paying attention...
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That an individual's existence is reliant on property is a given. (Not talking about equivalencies here. The individual also needs oxygen to exist and yet oxygen and existence are not equivalents.) One does not get very far when one's givens are rejected.
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If an individual still has his property, but it now just happens to be an underwater park, that should not negate his existence. The property still gets oxygen but just through a slower diffusional medium.
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Buy land near the coast that is 35 feet above current sea level and currently zoned 'agricultural'. Lemons to lemonade. Or perhaps, "Heavens to Murgatroid, Exit Stage UP!" ![[Linked Image from alohadude.net]](http://www.alohadude.net/content/snagglepuss.jpg)
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If 80% of the earth's population is killed off that would leave a lot more property to divy up among the survivors. If you happen to live in a country like the U.S. that will feel the least ammount of effect from it, and have the economic means to move or hold onto property inland where it's possible to protect yourself, your odds continue to rise toward survival.
You could even end up more comforatable without all those pesky phasants bothering you providing there are still enough of them left to grow your food, make your clothes, maintain your home(s)
and run errand for you.
Heak of a lot better odds than the lottery, providing you don't care about other people.
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If 80% of the earth's population is killed off that would leave a lot more property to divy up among the survivors. If you happen to live in a country like the U.S. that will feel the least ammount of effect from it, and have the economic means to move or hold onto property inland where it's possible to protect yourself, your odds continue to rise toward survival.
You could even end up more comforatable without all those pesky phasants bothering you providing there are still enough of them left to grow your food, make your clothes, maintain your home(s)
and run errand for you.
Heak of a lot better odds than the lottery, providing you don't care about other people. damn straight Garden T. no-one ever talks about the good news of "the black death" way back when. much more pie to divide up among the survivors, labourers were in such high demand that wages skyrocketed. plenty of room was made for those on the up! sure whats a tremedous calamity in the face of that!
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What's the worst that could happen? "The Exalted" would have NO ONE [left  ] to "exalt" THEM ?
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