Originally Posted by Greger
Originally Posted by issodhos
Originally Posted by Greger
And how would these "recalcitrants" be handled in your brave new world?

I suspect it would be rather difficult to be a political recalcitrant in a libertarian oriented society in which the Right of individuals to be free to voluntarily associate with like-minded individuals in forming a community of their choosing is recognized and safe-guarded. Of course, all individuals would still be subject to the sam laws of the land -- laws based on natural Rights in a libertarian oriented society. If you have a specific example in mind, let's take a stab at it.

By the way, your use of Huxley's collectivist-based utopia as a comparison to it's exact opposite -- a libertarian oriented society -- is a bit misleading.

Oh, and another thing that seems to be beyond the grasp of some -- not necessarilly you -- is that there is always a "trade off". And regardless of the desire to do so, one truely cannot both continue to keep one's cake and also consume it.;-)
Yours,
Issodhos

Issodos, You never mentioned that these recalcitrant types were of the political variety. I merely assumed you meant the blackguards and scofflaws who occasionally attempt to illegally direct the flow of wealth in their own direction. So the laws of the land would remain the same and continue to protect you and yours. As near as I can tell "the Right of individuals to be free to voluntarily associate with like-minded individuals in forming a community of their choosing"
is already an existing right. So what exactly is it you would change?

This thread has been about the political, Greger. And in addressing your question I also had in mind Schlack's erroneous "two tiered society" remark. Hence my remark concerning the law. I did not write that the law would "remain the same" as you state, but rather that individuals, regardless of whether they wish to live in a communal arrangement or exercise a more independent social and political relationship, would be subject to the same Rights-based law as all other individuals. That does not mean that those laws would be the same laws we now live under.

My comment concerning free association was in regard to how difficult it would be to actually be a political recalcitrant in a libertarian oriented free society, Greger.
Yours,
Issodhos



"When all has been said that can be said, and all has been done that can be done, there will be poetry";-) -- Issodhos