Originally Posted by Schlack
i dont know and i have no answers.

trust to hope?

it will all work out?

i wonder can you see the difficulty in following such a philosphy. a buiness was run along the same lines, it would fold quite quickly unless extrememely lucky.

can you please provide something more concrete?

It is probably best not to twist my words, Schlack. It just makes your argument look quite disengeneous. Having lived in Europe and spent some of my early formative years there, I do not fault you for looking for a leader and a blue print. Unlike America, Europe does not have a tradition of individuals voluntarily self-organizing on a routine basis to deal with everyday things. In America individuals still volunteer for local projects, join volunteer organizations (e.g., fire departments and rescue squads, hospital assistents, charitable organizations) and do so without being instructed to do so by some "top-down" leader or authority figure.

There will be no blueprint nor will there be a "maximum leader" for directing 'The Plan'. A pillar of liberty is the voluntary human-directed action that develops once man's creativity is loosed. There will be many experiments, some of which will fail and others which will succeed. And yes, it will be a slow, incremental process because a system based on individual liberty born of natural Rights will require persuasion -- unlike the current system which is established and maintained at the point of a government bayonet.

One thing I am sure of is that America must remain relatively stable for such a transformation to successfully occur, because if America suffers a social or economic meltdown the result will be the emergence of a rightist or a leftist totalitarianism that will crush any divergent worldview.

As to how a libertarian influenced society would work? Getting there would have to be in small steps to give people the time needed to adjust (the transition alone could take several generations)and to do so within the constraints of the current system of governance.

"Roads" is not a very good example because most of the developed world already has all the primary roads in place it needs (indeed, America has more such road than it actually needs), but if developers want to build new 'communities' let them foot the bill for connector roads rather than continue to force 'the public' to subsidize such ventures. Maintenance of highway infrastructure would continue to be through user fees on fuel and/or with tolls (of course, this would mean that a portion of the money collected would no longer be fraudulently diverted to "public mass transit" schemes).

Some major milestones would be erecting a Constitutional wall of separation between commerce and state (and yes, that is a two-way separation), the rescinding of supracitizen status now held by government-created corporate legal entities, a decriminalizing of drug use and the release of all persons convicted under such laws, eliminating the Federal Reserve, establishing a free-market monetary system, et cetera. It's a start.
Yours,
Issodhos


"When all has been said that can be said, and all has been done that can be done, there will be poetry";-) -- Issodhos