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Bit of a fly in the ol' "quarter pounder" there, Irked. Our present government-controlled system is already producing a vast surplus of workers who, with a little extra on-the-job training, can fill these job slots.;-)
Yours,
Issodhos

Again correct Issodoss! I am beginning to undersand your philosphy! Mainstream society is already sliding in this direction with the numbers of home schooled students rising every year, a revolt of parents who have seen the dumbing down of their children and removed from the system. My problems in the past with home schooling has been a lack of social intercourse which might leave without certain social skills. There are now thousands of home school groups where the students can mingle and mix pursue their separate educations together.
Julia, yes, the wealthier people can afford to send there children to arguably better prep schools. and the middle class perhaps to less luxurious trappings but with essential education at a not unreasonable price. All taxes for education would of course cease to exist. Local governments might make some laws cancerning how much you would need to educate the child as it would be considered toe stepping on the childs rights not to give him/her at least a basic understanding of words and numbers and prepare him/her for life as an independent citizen able to make his/her way without infringing on the rights of others due to his/her ignorance.
Like our private universities scholarships might be awarded for talented students to specialized schools and such as that. Endowments might be made to provide for this. Who knows, once these changes have begun to naturally lean toward everyone claiming as they deserve their natural rights.
Issodhos I understand now why you seem to be talking in circles sometimes. It's just hard to get this stuff said to people for whom the light has not come on yet.
De Regulating of business is fairly simple too once you cut off the freebies for the giant uber wealthy corporations they will need to make the switch to the new true free market. Indeed Generations, Issodhos, but if we survive the next 20 years I think we are going to see civilization naturally moving in that direction.

Greger, I'm not sure what you're responding to here. My only contribution here has been to say that the rich will always have more opportunities/freedoms than the poor. Me, I'm for educating everybody in sight for as long as possible -- I want my old-age caretakers to be able to read prescription instructions and cook my gruel -- but I'm afraid I may be wandering

The more I read from those advocating an "individualist" society the more I am convinced it is merely covering up selfishness on steroids.

That's where the blessing comes in: there are so many people going around thinking they have an education and are deserving of more than flipping burgers when, if they had not been feed this collectivist lie, they would be blissfully ignorant and content with their lot.

LOL, Phil.

When I worked with the local Green Party, we used to call the Libertarian Party the 'party of rich white guys'.
That said, we worked closely with them on some issues though....specifically ballot access.

Oh, I overstated the case, Olyve. I recognize the philosophy as honorable and has its virtues. I agree with much of the removal of government from private decisions part, but often not at all on the economic or view of property rights.

Indeed many do believe that they have 'received' an education and are "deserving" of something for having matriculated at the great societal holding pens we mischieviously call schools. Unfortunately, the 'product' defect rate from government-run schools does not bode well for such a claim.

As to being "blissfully ignorant and content", surely a goal of the advent of a Prussian-styled public school system in the US was to condition students to be a part of a docile and obedient work force? And surely, for the overwhelming majority of the time, that is what they have been? Reads like success -- if you believe that the Rights of an individual can be subordinated to the interest of the state or to the benefit of 'society' (them what runs it, anyhow). Think of it as the political collective.;-)
Yours,
Issodhos

It can be confusing, Phil. Think of it this way. When one forcibly takes from another in order to give to another, and then claims one is generous -- one is not only a thief, but also a liar. Not so the individual who gives of his own and does so freely and without coercion:-)
Yours,
Issodhos

I was responding to the comment somewhere that the rich man gets what he wants and the poor man gets what he can afford. The rich really have no more freedoms under the Libertarian Philosophy. There has always been a separation between rich and poor as far as opportunities are involved. We cannot all be rich and if you took everything from the rich and gave it to the poor then we would all be poor. Please remember that I am totally separating the Libertarian Philosophy from the "Libertarian" Party. I have seen the logic in the philosophy but the party itself does not reflect the philosophy beyond the surface. Much like the other two parties. While embracing the Libertarian Philosophy I remain a Democrat. The Libertarian Party appears mostly to be disgruntled Republicans.