Originally Posted by Phil Hoskins
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Maybe it's just my skewered perspective spinning an otherwise innocuous assertion, but isn't that kind of like saying there aren't enough American citizens and documented workers willing to do the job at the pay rate being offered, so they "have to" hire more undocumented workers because they are willing?

I think that is what I said.

The words, yes, but that doesn't bear out any kind of economic hardship, which is also what you seemed to argue (albeit you admitted no direct knowledge).

In this narrow case of picking fruit, it seems that DOUBLING the illegal wage would result in an economic increase, at the dinner table, of only 2 cents or so, per pound... not much of a hardship, is it? And I would think that doubling existing wages, whether it's $3 or $11 per hour, is likely going to attract *legal* workers, and so reduce if not eliminate the need for illegal hiring, especially at sub-minimum wage rates.

Would you agree with that conclusion as well?

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