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Originally Posted by Reality Bytes
You know, it would seem to me that the veracity of Pervez's claim that Islamic terrorists, especially Al Queda, committed this assassination, can easily be put to the test:

Does he now embark on all-out military operations against Al Queda and the rebel territories? If he is serious, then this is the proper course of action.

If he does not do this, than he is essentially complicit in the assassination, if not before (which I suspect is quite likely) then certainly after the fact.

Someone please give Reality Bytes a cigar.
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Originally Posted by Slipped Mickey
...Hillary is more like Bush than any other Democrat.
I agree, but for an entirely different reason.

First off, our great and wonderful President has never wanted to inquire about anything or even investigate anything - not even 9/11 - look at all of the arm twisting that took.

I think Hillary is like Mr Bush in that her Administration will be full of shenanigans and cover-ups as well - like a Bush Redux - but only a Democratic one.

Exactly! Me too Rick.


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Originally Posted by agnostic
I doubt that their differences have led to any serious changes in how US policy is brought about. I frankly cannot think of a time where we can clearly point to A) and say, this was VP Cheney, or B) this was Sec.State Condi's input.
Attacking Iran - Spring of 2007.

Cheney: Yes.

Rice & Gates: No.

Winner: Rice & Gates.


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Originally Posted by Reality Bytes
Does he now embark on all-out military operations against Al Queda and the rebel territories? If he is serious, then this is the proper course of action.

AH yes because if the last few years have shown anything its that using the army heavyhandedly against urban geurillas is a surefire recipie for success. The US doesnt have the monopoly on torture and other nastiness.

Musharaff has spent the last couple of years NOT doing exactly what has been suggested above.



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The president is providing leadership and strength
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The United States strongly condemns this cowardly act by murderous extremists who are trying to undermine Pakistan's democracy. Those who committed this crime must be brought to justice.


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Asked about his comment about a wanted poster, he replied, "All I'm doing is remembering when I was a kid. I remember they used to put out there in the Old West wanted posters that said 'Wanted dead or alive.' All I want and America wants him brought to justice. That's what I want."

Presidential spokesman Ari Fleischer later said that a presidential directive barring the U.S. government from engaging in assassination "does not limit the United States' ability to act in its self defense."


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President Bush held an emergency meeting of his top foreign policy aides yesterday to discuss the deepening crisis in Pakistan, as administration officials and others explored whether Thursday's assassination of opposition leader Benazir Bhutto marks the beginning of a new Islamic extremist offensive that could spread beyond Pakistan and undermine the U.S. war effort in neighboring Afghanistan.

U.S. officials fear that a renewed campaign by Islamic militants aimed at the Pakistani government, and based along the border with Afghanistan, would complicate U.S. policy in the region by effectively merging the six-year-old war in Afghanistan with Pakistan's growing turbulence.

"The fates of Afghanistan and Pakistan are inextricably tied," said J. Alexander Thier, a former United Nations official in Afghanistan who is now at the U.S. Institute for Peace.
US Fears spillover to Afghanistan


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Originally Posted by Schlack
Originally Posted by Reality Bytes
Does he now embark on all-out military operations against Al Queda and the rebel territories? If he is serious, then this is the proper course of action.

AH yes because if the last few years have shown anything its that using the army heavyhandedly against urban geurillas is a surefire recipie for success.
Good one, Shclaky!

Lest we forget, the US media failed to report when Musharraf signed the peace treaty with the Taliban and ceded the Waziristan province, and only feebly reported the Pentagon directives that he was vigorously engaged in anti-terrorist warfare, as evidenced by the killing of dozens of civilians in the Swat Valley.

So there is essentially no argument in the US about whether or not Musharraf will "go after the terrists", because he's already going. Just like we're winning in Afghanistan and we're about to capture bin Laden.


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What utter bullcrap is that from the LAT, Phil! My GAWD:

Originally Posted by LATimes
President Bush held an emergency meeting of his top foreign policy aides yesterday to discuss the deepening crisis in Pakistan, as administration officials and others explored whether Thursday's assassination of opposition leader Benazir Bhutto marks the beginning of a new Islamic extremist offensive that could spread beyond Pakistan and undermine the U.S. war effort in neighboring Afghanistan.
Is that not hilarious? What marked the beginning of a "new offensive" was the ill-advised "treaty" with the Taliban guaranteeing all criminals impunity as long as they were within its borders. How could they miss that!

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U.S. officials fear that a renewed campaign by Islamic militants aimed at the Pakistani government, and based along the border with Afghanistan, would complicate U.S. policy in the region by effectively merging the six-year-old war in Afghanistan with Pakistan's growing turbulence.
DUH! They're just now thinking of this? Almost a year after the Treaty was signed, and after a steady drumbeat of incidents in the region, and 2007 the most deadly year yet in Afghanistan, and the first year in which the probability of a US soldier being KIA in Afghanistan exceeded the probability of being KIA in Iraq - after all that, they think the trouble might start NOW??


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Just for the record Steve, the LAT reported the Taliban "treaty" rather well at the time.


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