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the royals are just celebs, frankly - went over there you all know damn well it would be covered. make it right? well, probably not. but then again, why don't we just stop writing about all the soldiers, and leave the war to the chickenhawks. oh, wait, that's what the bush administration has been trying to get us to all along. It seems you are confusing two things here. Yes the royals are celebs of sort but the fact is that Harry nor anyone around him wanted the story covered. Harry didn't choose to be a celebrity, he doesn't call up the photogs in a Brittneysque style and ask them to come along. He trained to be a solider and he wanted to use that training. It is not his fault the world he was born into and IMO he could have at least been allowed this one thing. I know this subject has been discussed many many times. I guess this story just hit me as such a unneccessary thing. There does seem to be a shift in journalistic ethics thankfully there are still some out there that strive to be good journalist on every level. However we have changed into a nation in need of crap news. CNN carried a story on the anniversary of Anna Nicoles death!! Have you ever seen a story on the anniversary of Mother Theresa's death? When JFK was in office the journalist were aware of his propensity for women, but they for the most part kept a lid on it. It wasn't news that was neccessary for the public to know. When Reagan was in the begining of his disease while still in office, the press allowed him the dignity to keep it under wraps. It just seems that reporting this story which put a life in danger was over the line.
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I know this subject has been discussed many many times. I guess this story just hit me as such a unneccessary thing. There does seem to be a shift in journalistic ethics thankfully there are still some out there that strive to be good journalist on every level. while i have little sympathy for the "he was born into it" line of thinking, i entirely agree that this story and many more out there are unneccesary. frankly, i do believe that the media as a whole wastes a great deal of time pandering to the lowest common denomenator in an effort to entertain and keep consumers interested. there is a lot of room for improvement. one thing i would also point out, however, is that it is somewhat a two-way street. there is also the consumer. i have long maintained that if the vast majority of consumers of any product were to stand up, much would be done to turn the tide of problems faced. on boards like this, most people are hyper-aware and understand far more than the average person and therefore are quick to see where they are being shorted. the average joe might not really pay attention.
sure, you can talk to god, but if you don't listen then what's the use? so, onward through the fog!
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none of this is new. this is the same old same old that has been going on for a couple hundred years in this country.
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Harry didn't choose to be a celebrity, Oh Rly? im afraid he did Red, both him and his brother are front line troops in the image wars, theyre the new faces of the british royal family, and have been celebratised to rehabilitate the image of the royals anyway thats hardly the point. marvellous allies the Brits have eh?
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"My feeling" is "this"-
If Harry's Mother was "still with us" he would be a member of the "Peace Corp" and not the "Kick-ass Corp".
His "enlistment" was never "a secret".
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Mama, his enlistment was not a secret. But consider if the Bush girls had enlisted whether it would be right to post their location in service.
I think Drudge would point a gun at his mother if he thought it would get clicks to his site. Even if Harry's service is an attempt to make the Crown look better I cannot fathom any good reason to post his location... despicable is the only word that comes to me.
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As I "recall" -
When Harry first "enlisted" IT was "understood" that his "service" WOULD NOT BE PERFORMED in Afghanistan or Iraq BECAUSE "something like this" would "inevitably" happen.
"The Royal Family of England" is/are global "celebraties" whether "they" "like it or not".
Harry should have shunned "the gun" and offered "a hand".
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How the Prince Harry blackout was broke. UK Telegraph /sigh. Poor guy was just trying serve his nation. At least he got 10 weeks of his dream. Absolutely deplorable.
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keep in mind, phil, that where drudge is concerned there has always been a question mark hanging over his porkpie hat. and that would be, who finances his endeavors. early on when he was first getting his name out there it was largely agreed that he was being bankrolled by anti-clinton types on the right. nothing definitive has ever been proved. so that leads one to ask, who in the hell does he work for and what is his/their agenda?
sure, you can talk to god, but if you don't listen then what's the use? so, onward through the fog!
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This article discusses the widespread agreement of news organizations to suppress disclosure of Harry's deployment: In a series of interviews, leading newspaper editors said the embargo was proposed by the Ministry of Defense in the wake of the splash of stories over an earlier proposal, later revoked, to send Prince Harry to Iraq. They emphasized that the blackout was agreed to, after lengthy discussion, unanimously and voluntarily; any news organization that violated it would face no punishment more severe than public opprobrium.
"Initially, obviously, there was distinct skepticism about the workability of such an agreement. But we talked it through collectively, and agreed there was a chance it could work," said Rhidian Wynn Davies, consulting editor at the Daily Telegraph.
"This was in no way the media collectively giving the prince an easy ride. It wasn't something for nothing. We were given assurances, which have been borne out, that we would get access to the prince on a pooled basis, and we would be furnished with high-quality content for our newspapers and websites," he said.
At least two American news organizations, CNN and the Associated Press, were also party to the discussions.
"It was a difficult decision, but in the end, not really," said John Daniszewski, managing editor for international news at the AP. "If we are in an embedded situation or something like that, we don't disclose military maneuvers or things that would put people in danger. So in the end it was our feeling that in this case it was not only a matter of the prince's safety, but the safety of the people with him, and we just didn't feel that it was our job to expose people to any additional hazard."
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