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It's also sexist for women to not want to serve in combat with men. And a few women, I would bet, feel that way (like the ones who refused to go to the latrine after dark for fear of being raped by their own comrades). That's attributing the behavior of a few to the behavior of all, something that can also be used by men who don't want to serve with women.

Here's a more current article, Julia. 1-293rd adjusts to women in combat These are becoming more common experiences:
Iraq war: The troops' testimonies

No, no no. Help! Help! I'm being misunderstood. I'm saying the article is no big deal. There's no new sexism there. Everything I know about sexism and other isms I knew before this thread was started. The article is not a mountain. There's nothing new in it. Nothing I've read in this thread has been a revelation.

Sorry but I'm sexist when it comes to women and war. I do not think women should go through basic training with men. The Marines still do not do it. I do not believe women should be in combat units. Women are not socialized as warriors in western society. Little boys grow up playing soldier and cowboy and indians and all that. Good or bad, right or wrong, there is a difference.

I salute everyone who serves. These women have every reason to be proud. None of them as far as I can see are 11 Bravo, infantry, nor should they be.

In Vietnam we began to realize that warfare was changing and that wars of the future would have no front lines. In Vietnam many combat support units took casualties. But except for nurses and doughnut dollies there were no American women in Vietnam. The only military women were nurses.

Times have changed. Because of piss poor planning of a war that never should have happened we went to war with the army we had as explain by Donald "MacNamara" Rumsfeld. Rumsfeld, Hadley, Fife and a handfull of like minded civilian suckers, dummies and fools with Cheney and Bush's approval put us right where we are today - National Guard troops humping half the load. Women too.

I understand that some women end up in the sh*t, most while in combat support roles. I don't know how many, what percentage, but one is too many. And there should be no women in line units. If that's sexist then in that regard deal me in. I would venture to say most women agree with me.

At least 82 female Soldiers have died in Iraq, of the nearly 4000 casualties. Female troop deaths in Iraq on pace to top record.

82! Wow, that's horrible. It's horrible that anyone died in Iraq. It's horrible that no one responsible for taking us there will ever be investigated and punished if found guilty.

But that article IS a big deal! It shows that sexism is alive and well, here in the supposed land of the free. To just dismiss it(the article), is to trivialize the problem.

This is like saying we should only have partial slavery.

Women are also socialized to protect their families. I happen to think that women are a hell of lot meaner when it comes to protecting what's theirs. If males can't stand the thought of working/fighting with their military sisters, maybe THEY should be the ones to withdraw. men may have more upper body strength, but women have greater endurance.

Funny; I remember playing Army when I was a kid. Didn't mean squat when it came to growing up and becoming a soldier, though.

Another thing that bugs me about this article: "swoon."

When, before Obama, was the last time you ever heard of anyone "swooning?" Now, in theory, women are "swooning" everywhere.

In reality, a half-dozen or so women have fainted at Obama rallies. These rallies are very large and very tightly-packed. When I was a kid, I routinely passed out in church in the summer because the air was so "close." I don't recall anyone suggesting that I was "swooning" over Father Murphy.