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Queen Diva, welcome and thank you for your perspective.
This is the first I've been able to get back to this thread. I am always drawn to racial discussions.....probably because of how I was raised and where I ended up afterwards. I grew up in an upper middle class (and climbing) white family in suburban Atlanta not overtly racist. That said even though I was THERE during integration, I was protected from it by attending a small all white private school (started for just that reason). I was fairly protected from ALL racial tension in the 60s by virtue of the circles I was in. My large family that still live in that area STILL 'protect' themselves from 'unwanted diversity'. When I left at age 18 to come to UGA is when I finally got a glimpse of the REAL world. I have lived in the same modest neighborhood for nearly 22 years. That is a conscious choice. I could have left years ago. When I moved in I was a single mother with a teenage daughter. The neighborhood was about half white and half black. Over time it has become majority black with a substantial number of other minorities...Hispanic and other internationals. I am in the minority now. I know the life and the breath of this neighborhood. From time to time it gets a little 'rough' but *WE* always manage to pull it back around. We've had gangs, we've had (have) drug activity. I feel very safe here. I've heard others say they wouldn't. I wouldn't change my life in a diverse 'alive' setting like this for anything.
I'm not saying I've never had a racist thought or pulled away from a preconceived notion of what I thought I was seeing but I am determined to not limit my parameters or those of my daughters.
It's my opinion that if more people would STOP running away from schools and neighborhoods (for example) because they are too 'diverse', we would have more understanding and less hostility. My daughters' public high school has been ranked very high nationally but it has a high drop out rate, low SAT scores pull the average down, etc. Yet at the same time, it turns out more honor students than the white county schools around us. One of the main speakers for a recent memorial service for a young murdered white girl who graduated from there, was a young black gay man.
One last point, my daughter and son in law in Atlanta (area) send their children to a charter school run by moslems. It always has a waiting list to get in. It is very international but predominantly black. My grandson is learning Arabic in kindergarten.
I hope this wasn't too off topic.
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differences are learned there you go.... sweet, Schlack
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In addressing your questions, I am struck by how impossible this discussion is in the absence of voices from "black" America. Even with a portion of my blood running to an African ancestry I did not grow up in a "black" area and therefore my experiences do not reflect that perspective.
I have yet to read the unvarnished, unprotected words of those who feel the oppression of the past in this discussion here. Without those words I think we are engaged in philosophical masturbation. You are going to have to stop agreeing with me, Phil, or people are gonna begin to talk.:-) Yours, Issodhos p.s. Nicely worded.
"When all has been said that can be said, and all has been done that can be done, there will be poetry";-) -- Issodhos
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Alright you two...is there something we Ranters ought to know? ![[Linked Image from i48.photobucket.com]](http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f228/ca_rickf/Smilies/icon_evil.gif) "They" say, opposites attract ![[Linked Image from i48.photobucket.com]](http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f228/ca_rickf/Smilies/icon_knuddel.gif)
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Alright you two...is there something we Ranters ought to know? ![[Linked Image from i48.photobucket.com]](http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f228/ca_rickf/Smilies/icon_evil.gif) Yes! As I promised earlier, I am attempting to lead Phil toward the light of liberty. Perhaps, in the near future, Phil will be extolling the merits of pushing a 140 grain .264 caliber pointed soft point down the barrel with 39.1 grains of IMR 4895 smokeless powder, both handrolled in Lapua brass. Don't be surprised if he suddenly sports a tattoo on his left shoulder that reads, "Don't Tread On Me" -- left shoulder so that he can hang it out the window of his newly purchased 8 cylinder, dual carb Ford F150 pickup for all to see -- along with his self-made back-window mounted rifle rack. It will probably be a while before he starts squirtin' 'backy juice at local councilmen, but I only have so much to work with, don'cha know. Yours, Issodhos
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Well Iss, maybe a tatoo, but I'd trade the hardware for a bood steady supply of high grade pot, maybe a few psychedelics. I would walk across country before I owned a F150, and I have a long record of putting my rear on the line for liberty long before many here were even alive.
Life is a banquet -- and most poor suckers are starving to death -- Auntie Mame You are born naked and everything else is drag - RuPaul
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Well Iss, maybe a tatoo, but I'd trade the hardware for a bood steady supply of high grade pot, maybe a few psychedelics. I would walk across country before I owned a F150, and I have a long record of putting my rear on the line for liberty long before many here were even alive. Well, heck, Phil. I didn't say it was gonna be easy. Oh, and by the way, hardware and pot/psychedelics ain't necessarilly an alternative of choice -- as long as you understand that it ain't proper etiquet to use both at the same time.:-) Yours, Issodhos
"When all has been said that can be said, and all has been done that can be done, there will be poetry";-) -- Issodhos
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Well Iss, maybe a tatoo, but I'd trade the hardware for a bood steady supply of high grade pot, maybe a few psychedelics. I would walk across country before I owned a F150, and I have a long record of putting my rear on the line for liberty long before many here were even alive. Well, heck, Phil. I didn't say it was gonna be easy. Oh, and by the way, hardware and pot/psychedelics ain't necessarilly an alternative of choice -- as long as you understand that it ain't proper etiquet to use both at the same time.:-) Yours, Issodhos ohhh thats fairly close to laying down rules on someone else gun use. dont tread in Phils natural right to use psycadelics and weaponry at the same time. sorry, had to.
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Now, Mellow, read between the lines a bit. Clearly some amnesia at work here and given the description of toy preferences, there may indeed by more than one species involved. Species trumped race last time I checked.
But to your point several pages back, when I walked in to set up my utilities, I was so taken aback by the oddness that I did indeed let the clerk wait on me and then got out as quickly as possible. I befriended a black manager at Enterprise over time (did a lot of traveling in the state) and asked him about this and other similar experiences. He, of course, knew exactly what I was talking about and confided that the worst thing I could have done would have been to make an issue of it. My fellow citizens, he says, would have paid dearly for my "fairness" and their willingness to accept it. I did learn a few tricks for bucking the system, but fear remained a powerful tool even that late in our history and was used to achieve what Jim Crow no longer was allowed to accomplish. Sad and depressing. We left after only a couple of years. Not sure which was more disturbing; the fire ants or my "fellow" white folk.
"The white men were as thick and numerous and aimless as grasshoppers, moving always in a hurry but never seeming to get to whatever place it was they were going to." Dee Brown
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