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think government run school systems have two primary goals -- conditioning students to be docile followers of the government and interchangable cogs for corpo-world

thats a rather large assumption to build on.

care to back it up with specifics? of course youre entitled to your opinion on the matter but i was very interested in some of the detail.

for starters:

what parts of the various curricula are aimed at delivering these goals. (one could easily point to doctrinal history of course, and civics type classes if you have them - anything else?)

what teaching methods are aimed at delivering these goals?

which developmental educational programmes are aimed at delivering these goals?

Which educational adacemics, teacher traning course are aimed at delivering these goals?

how do the stong PTA organisations in the US progress the deliverance of these goals?

why, considering teachers (that i know, and i have spent much time in their company) are so forthright and outspoken in general and to do with their profession in particular, do they sit back and take it so?

on this last point do teachers in the US not have strong professionally orientated unions/organisations? here in Ireland the teachers unions are a strong influence on education policy, the experts as it were informing policy, but by no means the only influence.

PS ive rarely know teenagers to be docile followers of anything schoolwise bar the latest music, fashions, trends and pokemon (for the younger uns) but i hardly see that as the education systems fault!). and for the younger uns its hard to get them to focus on anything for more than 5 seconds!


oh and i would also like to see some back-up on ardys point about govt funding and whether it means govt control and whether any control is as strong and as pernicious as claimed.


"The basic tool for the manipulation of reality is the manipulation of words. If you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use the words."
(Philip K.Dick)