Originally Posted by issodhos
Originally Posted by Schlack
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4. Your claim to being "directly" affected by Hummer buyers, if true, would be irrelevent. If such a wide brush is applied then there is little human activity that would not "affect" your life -- given such a dilation of definition applied to the butterfly effect you, perhaps subconsciously, imply.

well arent all human life, and societies and economies in theis globalised world interdependent? doesnt action x by a lot of people have a cumilative effect on y? isnt that one of the foundations of supply and demand theory?

yous in apparent confusion

Schlack

Sure, Schlack, we are one big spider's web. A Pigmy fart in Africa thumps the web and it reverbirates across the strands until a gale force wind sweeps through an Inuit village in the northern climes of Alaska. Irrelevent? Or do we outlaw Pigmies from farting because it will affect another? Or does human action have legitimate areas within which to act while free of collectivist drivel?;-)
Yours in clarity,
Issodhos

How many miles can we get to a pigmy fart?

lets see now, people selfishly and unthinkly buy up a lot of a limited resource, thus increasing the price for me.

just because the effect is indirect, or those people do not see me or indeed are not even aware of me does not lessen the impact.

not that im laying all be blame on the heads of hummer (and other low mpg vehicle owners) but they are a big part of the equation, along with other energy wasters.

like the "standy by" bastards.

the standy by button - temptress of waste

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Britons waste the equivalent of around two power stations' worth of electricity each year by leaving TV sets and other gadgets on standby.

Last June Environment Minister Elliot Morley, responding to an MP's question, revealed that electrical equipment in sleep mode used roughly 7TWh of energy and emitted around 800,000 tonnes of carbon.

more selfish and unthinking actions having an indirect effect upon me.

people too damn lazy and untinking to get up off their asses and turn of the TV.

reduce the cost of oil? reduce wasteful energy use.

take personal responsibility for your energy use. be aware of the wider implications of the cumulative effects of your actions and inactions.

Power of one info campaign

ohhh the collectivist horror.



oh and we should also start a "corks for Africa" campaign.

yours flatulently

Schlack



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