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Julia, IMO, that choice must be indicative at some level of where his frustrations lay. And in my mind it seems likely (though speculative) that the choice is in some form related to the vitriolic contempt that some people constantly expose themselves to by listening to hyper conservative talk show hosts, faux news, and innumerable evangelists and televangelists. The Adkissones' marriage disintegrated eight years ago after Adkisson had been drinking heavily and then put a gun to Alexander's head, said Carol Smallwood of Alice, Texas.
Smallwood said today she has known Adkisson for "25 to 30 years'' and helped Alexander move Adkisson's possessions out of the house in Powell after the incident with the gun.
"He always had the attitude the government was trying to get him,'' Smallwood said. "He disliked blacks, gays, anyone who was a different color or just different from him.
"He's a very intelligent man but he couldn't get in the mainstream and hold a job,'' Smallwood said. IMO, it is not so very different from the dynamic of Nazi Germany where frustrated Germans were constantly told that their country was being destroyed by THE JEWS>>>THE DIRTY FILTHY JEWS. If you constantly hear a message like that, I think it has an impact. And IMO that impact is corroding our national ability to form a workable consensus to address the difficult problems we face. And IMO that constant drumbeat of contempt and resentment is fertilizing the potential for some future event that will see a violent mob like reaction attacking some group... maybe illegal aliens, maybe non-heterosexuals...maybe Iran... IMO the groundwork for American Brown-shirts is being laid.
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I hadn't seen that, Larry - and I truly don't want to read the document.
We'll have to differ on this. I say if he hadn't already been seriously ill, all the books in the world wouldn't have prodded him to shoot complete strangers. Further (and I mean no humor in this at all), but his writings and reading material are probably more a result of his illness than vice versa.
But then I've never understood the idea of having to prove insanity for such a person either - to me, the act itself is proof of insanity.
As I said - I understand your point, I don't entirely disagree with it; we just see it differently, with good reason for either view.
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I do think you are correct that there are likely multiple interacting reasons that this man did what he did. And so it would be simplistic to settle on just one or two.
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IMO, that choice must be indicative at some level of where his frustrations lay. And in my mind it seems likely (though speculative) that the choice is in some form related to the vitriolic contempt that some people constantly expose themselves to by listening to hyper conservative talk show hosts, faux news, and innumerable evangelists and televangelists. IMO, it is not so very different from the dynamic of Nazi Germany where frustrated Germans were constantly told that their country was being destroyed by THE JEWS>>>THE DIRTY FILTHY JEWS. If you constantly hear a message like that, I think it has an impact. And IMO that impact is corroding our national ability to form a workable consensus to address the difficult problems we face. And IMO that constant drumbeat of contempt and resentment is fertilizing the potential for some future event that will see a violent mob like reaction attacking some group... maybe illegal aliens, maybe non-heterosexuals...maybe Iran... IMO the groundwork for American Brown-shirts is being laid.  BAN the RADIO! Freedom of Speech is an outdated idea whose original intent was to protect only socially acceptable and politically correct ideas. Ban all "hyper conservative talk show hosts", transport them to reeducation camps and transform them from right wing zelots to left leaning, enlightened Americans! Do you really believe the CRAP that this idea embodies? "Vitriolic contempt", just listen to the Democratic members talk about the President and Vice President. It was only a matter of time before this conversation would devolve into Nazi comparisons! It will just take a shrot time longer for this nuts actions, excuse me "brainwashed mentally ill American who got adicted to Right-wing talk radio"'s action, be used as an excuse to confiscate all weapons in America. We must protect the masses! Come on guys and gals, lets think about this a little. The guy is a nut! He is no different than the shoe bomber or the uni-bomber, or maybe the guy who liked to shoot up the abortion clinics and the Atlanta Olympics. He is just screwed up, he probably couldn't aford a radio.
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Come on guys and gals, lets think about this a little. The guy is a nut! He is no different than the shoe bomber or the uni-bomber, or maybe the guy who liked to shoot up the abortion clinics and the Atlanta Olympics. He is just screwed up, he probably couldn't aford a radio. Hmmmm, odd you should cite only right wing nuts.
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Julia, I'm not implying that the right-wing propaganda led him to this violent act. He's mentally ill...the liberals (and the liberal church) was just the target of his hatred. It could have just as easily been a deranged liberal shooting up a Young Republicans meeting...either way, it's the act of an unbalanced, deranged person. It just happens that in this case, he left a clear record of his motives and intentions. That doesn't make them rational, but at least we have a glimpse of what was going on in his mind. I hadn't seen that, Larry - and I truly don't want to read the document.
We'll have to differ on this. I say if he hadn't already been seriously ill, all the books in the world wouldn't have prodded him to shoot complete strangers. Further (and I mean no humor in this at all), but his writings and reading material are probably more a result of his illness than vice versa.
But then I've never understood the idea of having to prove insanity for such a person either - to me, the act itself is proof of insanity.
As I said - I understand your point, I don't entirely disagree with it; we just see it differently, with good reason for either view.
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Come on guys and gals, lets think about this a little. The guy is a nut! He is no different than the shoe bomber or the uni-bomber, or maybe the guy who liked to shoot up the abortion clinics and the Atlanta Olympics. He is just screwed up, he probably couldn't aford a radio. Hmmmm, odd you should cite only right wing nuts. Actually the Shoe Bomber was Muslim, a group that is especially protected by the left now that Barack H Obama, the neo-savior, is your candidate. Sick is sick and politics have nothing to do with it. The Nazi's were socialists, as close to an American Dem as political definitions can come. His allies were totalitarians, with hate crimes and hate speech laws your party is coming dangerously close to regulating free speech and personal behavior. Hitler practiced character assasination, look what you guys are doing to Cheney, DeLay, Clinton, McCain, the NY Times, Fox News and protecting left wing nuts like Jimmy Carter and Sandy Berger... why you are making rags like the National Enquirer and NewsMax look moderate at times. In the end, this guy had issues. In the bad old days he would have been committed, in the good new days he is left to his own resources and allowed to get sicker. I point fingers at nobody, responsibility for this situation crosses all party lines. Besides, I am a Democrat now, remember? Barack H Obama is my hero, and the neo-savior of the Democratic Party. I will never, well almost never, say bad things about him.
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Actually the Shoe Bomber was Muslim, a group that is especially protected by the left now that Barack H Obama, the neo-savior, is your candidate. Sick is sick and politics have nothing to do with it. The Nazi's were socialists, as close to an American Dem as political definitions can come. His allies were totalitarians, with hate crimes and hate speech laws your party is coming dangerously close to regulating free speech and personal behavior. Hitler practiced character assasination, look what you guys are doing to Cheney, DeLay, Clinton, McCain, the NY Times, Fox News and protecting left wing nuts like Jimmy Carter and Sandy Berger... why you are making rags like the National Enquirer and NewsMax look moderate at times. what did you say about character assassination? my word Ma_Rep, your satirical skills are impressive.
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That's a pretty serious contention. Source(s) please? Actually the Shoe Bomber was Muslim, a group that is especially protected by the left now that Barack H Obama, the neo-savior, is your candidate.
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MA_R, you are really reaching. To say the Nazis are as close to Dems as possible exhibits an abysmal lack of knowledge or a bias so putrid I really cannot fathom how you reached that point.
This is exactly the kind of name calling that disgusts me to the point of once again skipping over your crap.
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Come on guys and gals, lets think about this a little. The guy is a nut! He is no different than the shoe bomber or the uni-bomber, or maybe the guy who liked to shoot up the abortion clinics and the Atlanta Olympics. He is just screwed up, he probably couldn't aford a radio. Hmmmm, odd you should cite only right wing nuts.
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