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I Lewis Libby ground up in a perjury trap isn't that another way of saying "caught lying under oath"? 
Steve Give us the wisdom to teach our children to love,
to respect and be kind to one another,
so that we may grow with peace in mind.
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But, no charges were ever brought for such breeches. He admitted he exposed Plame ergo no charges should be necessary to elicit your or my contempt for his actions. or do you believe it is ok to expose covert CIA agents? As i said a fishing expedition would imply looking for anything but in this case it is very specific what they are interested in. The problem is KR is a known liar i.e. he told Scott he was involved and told Fitzpatrick he was, I wonder if that somehow implies the President can't tell the difference between lies and truth. a perjury trap???? !!!! really. It;s only a trap if you can;t tell the truth. Libby didn't tell the truth ergo he committed perjury. All he had to say was yes he did. How hard is honesty for these characters??? Must be out of character. I don;t know if he committed a crime or not but he was involved in many dealings which may have been illegal. Seems like the only way of knowing for sure to for him to testify and clear the air. If he is innocent of any crime then he is good to go. Of course I suppose some people may believe it is ok for the President and staff to commit crimes if they are not caught (or they protect themselves with EP or pass laws to protect themselves or use Presidential pardons) but I don't. If you do the crime you should do the time. Works for every one else should also apply to the President and staff.
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In a related case: President Bush's top advisers are not immune from congressional subpoenas, a federal judge ruled Thursday in a long-running dispute between the two political branches.
Congressional Democrats called the ruling a ringing endorsement of the principle that nobody is above the law. They swiftly announced that the Bush officials who have defied their subpoenas, including Bush's former top adviser Karl Rove, must appear as part of a probe of whether the White House directed the firings of nine federal prosecutors. Democrats announced plans to open hearings at the height of election season.
The Bush administration was expected to appeal.
In his ruling, U.S. District Judge John Bates said there's no legal basis for Bush's argument and that his former legal counsel, Harriet Miers, must appear before Congress. If she wants to refuse to testify, he said, she must do so in person. The committee also has sought to force testimony from White House chief of staff Joshua Bolten.
"Harriet Miers is not immune from compelled congressional process; she is legally required to testify pursuant to a duly issued congressional subpoena," Bates wrote. He said that both Bolten and Miers must give Congress all nonprivileged documents related to the firings.
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and the bush admin respond WASHINGTON, DC—The White House denied rumors of wrongdoing by anyone named Karl Rove Monday, saying the alleged deputy chief of staff does not exist. "To my knowledge, no one by the name of Karl Rove works for this president, his staff, or for that matter, anyone on earth, since he is not a real person," White House press secretary Scott McClellan told reporters Monday heh they act like scotty doesnt exist either
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I hate to inform you, Mr. Smarty-Irish Schlack, but Scotty IS fictional. Scotty, and Uhura, and even James T. Kirk. All of 'em. So there. And they say Americans are asleep at the wheel...sheesh! 
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I hate to inform you, Mr. Smarty-Irish Schlack, but Scotty IS fictional. Scotty, and Uhura, and even James T. Kirk. All of 'em. So there. And they say Americans are asleep at the wheel...sheesh! sooo the bush admin got to you too?
"The basic tool for the manipulation of reality is the manipulation of words. If you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use the words."
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He admitted he exposed Plame ergo no charges should be necessary to elicit your or my contempt for his actions. or do you believe it is ok to expose covert CIA agents? As i said a fishing expedition would imply looking for anything but in this case it is very specific what they are interested in. The problem is KR is a known liar i.e. he told Scott he was involved[sic] and told Fitzpatrick he was, I wonder if that somehow implies the President can't tell the difference between lies and truth. a perjury trap???? !!!! really. It;s only a trap if you can;t tell the truth. Libby didn't tell the truth ergo he committed perjury. All he had to say was yes he did. How hard is honesty for these characters??? Must be out of character.
I don;t know if he committed a crime or not but he was involved in many dealings which may have been illegal. Seems like the only way of knowing for sure to for him to testify and clear the air. If he is innocent of any crime then he is good to go. Of course I suppose some people may believe it is ok for the President and staff to commit crimes if they are not caught (or they protect themselves with EP or pass laws to protect themselves or use Presidential pardons) but I don't. If you do the crime you should do the time. Works for every one else should also apply to the President and staff.
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