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A good read -- if read carefully. And don't think the Democratic Party hasn't done its own share of damage.

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As the economic debacle facing Americans continues to materialize, those responsible are running for cover with ten Republican senators refusing to attend their own national convention. Four years ago we observed that the so-called "Republican philosophy" of small government, sound money, and balanced budgets was illusory in terms of the history and then-current policies of the Republican Party.[1] However, even we would never have guessed how awful the Republican Party economic policy would become. From mere mercantilism, the Republican Party is now flirting with comprehensive socialist economic policy and another Great Depression.

The Republican Party was founded on big government and economic intervention with roots in the economic platforms of Federalist icon Alexander Hamilton and Whig leader Henry Clay. Indeed, the term "New Deal" was coined in 1865 to characterize Lincoln and his Republican Party economic platform. Republicans became the "mercantile" party of big business, big government, external protection, centralized monetary control, strong restrictions on immigration, and aggressive foreign policy.

From FDR's New Deal to LBJ's Great Society, Democratic policies forced many free-market activists into the Republican fold. People like Robert Taft, Barry Goldwater, Ronald Reagan, and of course Ron Paul, represent this free-market faction in the Republican Party. For example, free markets, deregulation, and balanced budgets became the Republican mantra (if not reality) during the Reagan administration. The orchestrated marginalization of Ron Paul is just one indicator that the free-market faction has been routed and that the mercantilists are firmly in control. In fact, as we endure the current economic malaise, we can note that the Republican-dominated Congress (1994–2006) and the administrations of George W. Bush have morphed Republican-style mercantilism into corporate socialism.
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If "free-markets" are so good for the economy - why did the U.S. government "seize" Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae over the weekend?

Clearly industry can't be looked upon to regulate itself. This is the housing market's third black mark since the 1980s - how many times are we going to allow industries to run amok?

Need we be reminded of the energy industry's shenanigans just eight years ago?

How much government do we want? We can't have the government that Republicans want - as this post shows. We need government oversight of industry.


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Interesting site you linked to Iss. Had not seen that one before. Many interesting articles. Yes indeed damage inflicted is shared by both parties in the US. Good intentions have unintended consequences. But maybe some are intended, it’s difficult to tell these days.


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[quote=california rick]If "free-markets" are so good for the economy - why did the U.S. government "seize" Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae over the weekend?

Bear in mind, california rick, that Freddie Mac and fannie mae are not free market entities. They are government creations with private investors. Also keep in mind that a prime point in this article is that when the Republican Party talks of free markets and limited government, it is a lying hypocrite -- much like the Democratic party is a lying hypocrite when it pretends to be concerned about racism, sexism, and other politically correct crap it harpson when it is advantageous for it to do so.

As to California's stupidity (or more probably political corruption) in regard to the half-assed 'privatation' scam its government got into, it has nothing to do with free markets or this article.

As to housing's third black mark since the 80's, I am afraid you have me at a disadvantage. What black marks?
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Originally Posted by california rick
"free-markets" are so good for the economy

heh free markets are so good because they are an impossible and unachievable fantasy, into which all hopes and wishes can be projected.

as long as there are organisations of people, wealth and power aggregated to few, and the apparent instict of humans to f*ck over every system they are living in, there will never be a "free market" of the type Isshodos idealizes about.

and i dont think we will ever be without them.



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As Issodhos, and most other posters who have been here any amount of time, knows, I don't put much stock in Mises, but this article has a great deal of merit. Rather that dwelling on the minor disagreements, I'll simply note that the description of the corruption of the Republican party is, in my estimation, spot on. In particular, I'll commend this part, which follows the quote Issodhos supplied:
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the Republican-dominated Congress (1994–2006) and the administrations of George W. Bush have morphed Republican-style mercantilism into corporate socialism.

Harmful military spending, unbalanced budgets, fiscal irresponsibility, protectionist and monopoly handouts to friends is the old style Republican playbook. The new style is audacious, unprecedented, and truly awful for the economy. It begins with the Republican-controlled Federal Reserve, which, under Alan Greenspan and Ben Bernanke, has flooded the economy with money and credit and bailed out every economic crisis since 1987. Greenspan's admonitions against "irrational exuberance" apparently were not intended to restrain the Federal Reserve's irresponsible monetary policy. Who in their right mind could honestly say that the Fed had nothing to do with the housing bubble after driving the nominal interest rate to 1% and proclaiming that the mortgage market was well regulated?

But an insidious form of "market-based policy" is also a real culprit in the current mess. In 1999 a bill was passed by a Republican Congress and signed by Democratic President Bill Clinton that rescinded the Depression era's divorce of commercial banking activities from investment banking, called the Glass-Stegall Act of 1933. That opened a floodgate of "creative" financial instruments backed by notes and other commercial paper. Much of the banking regulation of the Roosevelt administration — including abandonment of the gold standard — made absolutely no sense, but markets can fail with dire short-run consequences under a fiat monetary system. With Glass-Stegall, Congress put its finger on and mitigated the tendency and temptations of banks to create massive costly externalities to society, in this case, by holding bundled mortgage-backed securities which were deemed safe by rating agencies but which ultimately failed the market test.
While the authors wish for real free-market operations, they note that
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in the world as it is, this "deregulation" amounts to corporate welfare for financial institutions and a moral hazard that will make taxpayers pay dearly.
They then list many of the excesses of the Republican approach, including" subsidies to the pharmaceutical, sugar, and steel industries" before noting that
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this particular gift to financial institutions is what allowed the credit bubble to expand to such absurd proportions, because it allowed banks of all types to engage in increasingly risky transactions and to greatly expand the leverage of their balance sheets. As the crisis unfolds, credit continues to contract, the risk of bank failures increases, and the possibility of far more serious economic consequences become more apparent. The S&L crisis cost the taxpayers a few hundred billion, but this crisis has the potential of saddling the taxpayer with several trillion in bailouts.
They are most assuredly correct that it was overleaveraging (Bear Stearns was leveraged at over 32:1 - when 10:1 is considered "risky - some institutions have exceeded Bear Stearns in their illiquidity) that created the crisis, and that the Republican prescription, "to bail out lenders — wealthy financial-industry professionals for the most part — who made unwise market decisions with subsidies and election-year subventions" has only made it worse and will continue to make it worse. It is, indeed, a prescription for Depression.


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I feel like I get "trickled down" on more by the Democrats, than the Republicans. I feel the Republicans have weak bladders. Or maybe the Republicans have exceedingly strong bladders like babies, and they are spraying it toward the ceiling...


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We hate kittens and puppies too.

Maybe you're not preparing them correctly...if done right, they taste just like chicken! devil


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Yes, NWP, all too sadly true.

It was rather nice when the Republican party could provide some sort of check on democratic excess... a voter had some option.

These days it seems that both parties are in a race to accumulate power by trying to assemble a majority through telling people what they want to hear and engaging in an endless escalation of the war of promises. Democratic economic policy was generally designed to attempt massage the economy to minimize the frequency and effect of recessions. The republicans have gone them one better to try to continually stimulate the economy... sort of like athletes on steroids and hormones. And, as we all know, steroids and hormones do work... for a time. But, since our nation is always focused on achieving improved results for the next quarter... this sort of artificial stimulation is very popular. Or, more accurately perhaps, the lack of this stimulation is unpopular.

Over time, we have unashamedly become a "have your cake and eat it too" sort of society. A country where the president can lead us into war and tell the citizens to do their part by going shopping. And, more shockingly, such an admonition causes hardly even a ripple of concern. Tax cuts are proposed at every stage of the economic cycle with a complete disconnect from concern about deficits. As Cheney is supposed to have said "Deficits do not matter"


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