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I find it amusing that the "real" Roger Waters, ala Pink Floyd, is apparently offering his support to Barak Obama.
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What's even more amusing, given the "intended" argument of this thread, is his reasoning for doing so:

True. But then, he has only been a senator for about three and one half years, during much of which time he was probably focused on running for president. Guess a comprehensive track record in foreign policy requires some experience, first.;-)
Yours,
Issodhos

Iss, could you please detail the experience that McCain has that Obama lacks?

Phil, could you please detail the track record the junior senator from Illinois has that would indicate experience in the area NW Ponderer was referring to?
Yours,
Issodhos

(I know I'm not Iss, but...)

...until recently I would have said he is definitely more experienced at twisting words, reversing direction, putting outright lies out in major ads - getting people to believe them all, and getting away with it.

But in the last week or two, I'd have to say he's not really getting away with it, so much anymore... and though it remains to be seen, people seem to have a harder time actually believing him now.

Back in 2000 he appeared to be one of the rare Republicans that I actually considered voting for... until the Bob Jones University incident... and especially, how he handled it.

Now, his decisions just seem to be bizarre... picking Palin was one, saying he'd fire Cox as president (which seemed to be more knee-jerk than anything, and that's if the Prez *could* fire him - which he can't), and now this "I'll suspend my campaign and postpone the debate so I can look like I'm doing something gravely important". I remember his 2000 campaign had a few bizarre twists, and didn't he go through 2 or 3 complete campaign teams about this time last year?

This 'maverick' looks more and more like he's found himself in a box canyon with the cowboys closing in...

Oh, back to experience, right...

Uh... he seems to be pretty facile at diverting attention? Kind of like Bush? And as Senator, he did do that campaign reform deal, with Feingold... and the Keating S&L deal was pretty skillful, he knew exactly when to cut and run out on that deal, better than the other co-conspirators.

I do have to give him credit for sticking with "more troops" in Iraq at the end, which has helped make a bad situation a little better, at least for now. I don't recall, did he support Zinni or whoever it was that called for 300,000 to 500,000 troops at the beginning, to not let the situation not get out of hand from the beginning?

As I recall, he did. Yet, another reason not to vote for him.
Yours,
Issodhos

Iss
No one is proposing that one should vote for Obama BECAUSE of his experience. And so there is really no cause to ask people to validate Obama's experience that is not claimed as the foundation for supporting Obama.

On the other hand there is a widespread proposition that McCain is highly experienced and that the experience factor is a very important reason WHY people should support him over Obama. And so in that context the question remains:

No, you claimed McCain had experience, back it up or stop making the claim.

Gentleman, they both have experience. However, the question is to what degree are you comfortable with, a) the breadth of experience of one; and b) the type of experience of another. The argument here is not whether one has enough experience to be president, but whether that experience is enough for you to cast a vote in that direction.