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I wonder if anyone has considered the possibility that the Bill was destined for an even greater defeat before Rep. Pelosi's "ad lib". Did anyone count the votes before she spoke? Has anyone bothered to question the Congresspeople who voted for it, to see if any did so on the basis of her having helped distance them from the albatross of the Administration's failed policies?
Hmm. Those clever Mainstream Media wouldn't overlook something that obvious, would they?
Steve Give us the wisdom to teach our children to love, to respect and be kind to one another, so that we may grow with peace in mind. (Native American prayer)
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I was merely responding to the claim that it was Pelosi's comments that scuttled the bill
Life is a banquet -- and most poor suckers are starving to death -- Auntie Mame You are born naked and everything else is drag - RuPaul
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...but this is what Speaker Pelosi said: When President Bush took office, he inherited President Clinton's surpluses — four years in a row, budget surpluses, on a trajectory of $5.6 trillion in surplus. And with his reckless economic policies within two years, he had turned that around ... and now eight years later the foundation of that fiscal irresponsibility, combined with an anything-goes economic policy, has taken us to where we are today. They claim to be free-market advocates when it's really an anything-goes mentality, no regulation, no supervision, no discipline. ..."
"... Democrats believe in a free market ... but in this case, in its unbridled form as encouraged, supported by the Republicans — some in the Republican Party, not all — it has created not jobs, not capital, it has created chaos. Did Pelosi's ad lib doom the deal? Well, she did take a partisan cheap shot just before the festivities were to begin, and in doing so, seems to have elected to place party concerns over country, but then, she is a run-of-the-mill pol.:-) And by the way, what surpluses, Speaker Pelosi? And since when are Republicans supporters of "free markets" and since when did Democrats develop even an inkling as to what "free markets" are, let alone develop a faith in it? Yours in giddiness over the silly season, Issodhos
"When all has been said that can be said, and all has been done that can be done, there will be poetry";-) -- Issodhos
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[Too damn bad.The republicans deserve to be in the dog house. True. True. Along side their sisters from the other side of the aisle, with whom they skipped merrily down the primrose path of unleashed power.;-) Yours, Issodhos
"When all has been said that can be said, and all has been done that can be done, there will be poetry";-) -- Issodhos
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So if I understand the logic (what little there may be), the Republicans in the House voted against th4e bill solely because they had their feelings hurt? That seems to be what Charlie Rangle or Barney Frank said to the media today. Yours, Issodhos
"When all has been said that can be said, and all has been done that can be done, there will be poetry";-) -- Issodhos
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The party that stands for small government cannot be seen as supporting a bill that costs the taxpayers that much money for stabilizing the financial sector (that money is only saved for national defense and wars in Iraq/Afghanistan). Well, they don't exactly stand for it (or, from what I have been able to fathom, for anything other than power), so much as give it occassional mouthings when useful. Yours, Issodhos
"When all has been said that can be said, and all has been done that can be done, there will be poetry";-) -- Issodhos
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Despite the fact my retirement lies in the balance, I am cheering as this corrupt perverted system falls and I am as happy as can be that the dumb American public is getting what they deserve. Alas, all too often the sentiments expressed by portions of the American Left. I sometimes think it is the "suffering" of the "suffering masses" with which much of the Left is so enthralled. Yours in serenity, peace, love, and understanding, Issodhos
"When all has been said that can be said, and all has been done that can be done, there will be poetry";-) -- Issodhos
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Alas, all too often the sentiments expressed by portions of the American Left. I sometimes think it is the "suffering" of the "suffering masses" with which much of the Left is so enthralled. Yours in serenity, peace, love, and understanding, Issodhos and indeed then they should be eternally grateful to the American Right for creating so many suffering masses.
"The basic tool for the manipulation of reality is the manipulation of words. If you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use the words." (Philip K.Dick)
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Alas, all too often the sentiments expressed by portions of the American Left. I sometimes think it is the "suffering" of the "suffering masses" with which much of the Left is so enthralled. Yours in serenity, peace, love, and understanding, Issodhos and indeed then they should be eternally grateful to the American Right for creating so many suffering masses. Actually, if you wish to run that straw dog, I would suggest that a goodly portion of the "suffering masses" were created in Ireland and other European states prior to immigrating to America. Your loss, our gain.;-) Yours, Issodhos
"When all has been said that can be said, and all has been done that can be done, there will be poetry";-) -- Issodhos
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Senator McCain tries a publicity stunt by "suspending his campaign" (itself a lie, but not germane to this point), rushing back to Washington to "broker a deal," fails to persuade 2/3 of his own party (not that they were ever pursuadable) to back the bill, and this becomes Obama's fault? The stink of desperation is all over this. It is so insanely illogical... wait, that may be the answer. It is insane. No, it makes perfect sense... in the mind of a six year old child: "Look what you made me do!" McCain really needs to fire some of those staffers if this is the kind of ridiculous crap they think they can sell. Or even worse, was it his own idea?
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