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Let's see, how can the Fed make things worse? Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke warned Tuesday that the financial crisis has not only darkened the country’s current economic performance but also could prolong the pain.
The Fed chief’s more gloomy assessment appeared to open the door wider to an interest rate cut on or before Oct. 28-29, the central bank’s next meeting, to brace the wobbly economy.
Bernanke said the Fed will “need to consider” whether its current stance of holding rates steady “remains appropriate” given the fallout from the worst financial crisis in decades. MSNBC That's it, do more of what got us in this mess.
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Back in the real world today: International markets were still in turmoil. The Dow lost 508 points to close at 9447. The S&P fell below 1000. Bernanke spread gloom by saying that the crisis could extend to the end of next year. (I think he is being optimistic) Hang on to Your Wig, George!I include the above link to inject a little humor into the situation (a very little humor). __________________
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Wall Street RoutWASHINGTON - Calm gave way to fear in financial markets Thursday, turning a relatively steady day into a rout that pushed the Dow Jones industrials below 9,000 for the first time in five years. Investors, who had begun the day somewhat optimistic that the government was taking extraordinary steps to contain the financial crisis, turned gloomy under an onslaught of worries about the economy and corporations. On the anniversary of its closing high, the Dow shed more than seven per cent, or almost 700 points, to 8579.19. The Dow has lost 5,585 points, or 39 per cent, since closing at 14,198 a year ago. The S&P 500, which also fell more than seven per cent to 909.92, is off 655 points, or 42 per cent, since recording its high of 1,565.15 a year ago. In the month after October 24, 1929, the Dow had lost about 48% of its value. We are seeing losses approaching those of 1929 and a month has not yet passed since "Black Monday" September 15, 2008! Turmoil and losses in world markets guarantee that Friday will be another day of horror. ____
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G7 urged to take joint action to avoid collapse of financial systemPresident George Bush appeared in the White House rose garden in an attempt to reassure American voters and investors.
"We are a prosperous nation with immense resources and a wide range of tools at our disposal," he said. "Fellow citizens, we can solve this crisis. And we will." Oh, now we are "fellow citizens," are we, rather than "consumer units?" Things must be really bad. __________
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In the month after October 24, 1929, the Dow had lost about 48% of its value. We are seeing losses approaching those of 1929 and a month has not yet passed since "Black Monday" September 15, 2008! Markets tanked Thursday, extending the Dow's losses over the last seven sessions to 2,271 points, or 20%, as panicked investors ditched stocks across the board. source: CNNEven a loss of 1% could be said to be "approaching". Yet I think it is also fair to say we have a long way to go before we are in a worse position now than we were in 1929.
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Bush Calls for Calm Amid Global Stock Market Panic- Reuters
Warning that "anxiety can feed anxiety," U.S. President George W. Bush implored Americans to remain confident on Friday and promised to restore stability in the face of a global stock market panic. He certainly is an expert in the way fear works. He's somewhat less adept at restoring stability though.
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Here is an article by Paul Craig Roberts, asssistant secretary of the treasury under Reagan. He is a conservative (old-style), but do not let that put you off. He is honest and has a good head on his shoulders. A Possible Solution to the Economic CrisisLet’s begin with the fact that the financial crisis is more or less worldwide. The mechanism that spread the American-made financial crisis abroad was the massive US trade deficit. Every year the countries with which the US has trade deficits end up in the aggregate with hundreds of billions of dollars. Countries don’t put these dollars in a mattress. They invest them. They buy up US companies, real estate, and toll roads. They also purchase US financial assets....
If the US current account was close to balance, the contagion would have lacked a mechanism by which to spread.
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In place of a liquidity problem, I see an over-abundance of debt instruments relative to wealth. A fractional reserve banking system based on fiat money appears to be capable of creating debt instruments faster than an economy can create real wealth. Add in credit card debt, stocks purchased on margin, and leveraged derivatives, and debt is pyramided relative to real assets.
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The explanation of the Great Depression was not known until the 1960s when Milton Friedman and Anna Schwartz published their Monetary History of the United States. Given the stupidity of our leadership and the stupidity of so many of our economists, we may learn what happened to us this year in 2038, three decades from now. You can find other article by Roberts here: Articles by Paul Craig RobertsHe is well worth reading on a number of topics. He is a conservative, but unlike so many conservatives, he is not a worshipper of authority and can see through the propaganda. __________
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Used to be a conservative.
Steve Give us the wisdom to teach our children to love, to respect and be kind to one another, so that we may grow with peace in mind. (Native American prayer)
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I posted this link on another thread, but as it ties in so perfectly here, I didn't want anyone to miss it. IMHO, an magnificent piece of writing. Ten ways get rich without doing anything socially useful
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Excellent article, Itstarted, thank you.
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