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Ardy #78996 10/03/08 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Ardy
The issue that this fil raises for me is that apparently ordinary people are capable of incredible cruelty.


And what it says about crowd/mob mentality. It may have been after you stopped watching but some of the kids who joined in were asked why. Their answers: "Don't know." "Everyone else was." "Someone said she didn't feel pain." So why was she screaming?


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http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1117385/

I've had the movie "Felon" on my HDD for about a month and didn't really want to watch it since, truthfully, I'm sick of all the prison based films and tv shows that have been put out lately.

However, once I watched this movie I understood why it got such great reviews. Val Kilmer played a great role and I did not recognize it was him until well into the movie.

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A loving family man with a promising future loses everything when he accidentally kills the burglar who broke into his home. Covicted of involuntary manslaughter, he is sentence to spend the next three years inside a maximum security facility where the rules of society no longer apply.

Maybe I really enjoyed the movie because I could not blame the characters of Stephen Dorff or Val Kilmer for the crimes they committed. The movie also shows how a good family man can easily change into an animal when cornered and the rules of society no longer apply.


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I just finished a beautiful and very disturbing film, and I'm not sure how I found it...except that I think someone here mentioned a book called "The Secret Life of Words," and when I googled it I found this movie. Same title. Much different subject.

It's from 2005 and must have been an independent production or, no, looks like it might be foreign.

Most of the movie takes place on an oil rig which has been shut down after a fire. There is a nurse, who is on leave from a factory job and has been flown to a North Sea rig to care for the patient, who was burned in the fire.

Neither of these two characters are particularly likable. She is extremely closed, perhaps OCD, hard to tell; he is an American oil rigger (although a relatively "kind and gentle" oil rigger if the stories I've heard about rigs are true.)

In the days on this oil rig they get to know each other, and they break each other's secrets loose - theirs, and those of their closest friends.

Warning: at one point in this movie there is an extremely harrowing description of the treatment of women in the war in Yugoslavia.

There is also one of the best descriptions of sorrow I have heard in a very long time - a sorrow so deep that if one ever began to cry, the tears would go on until they filled the room and everyone in it would drown.

It's very difficult to describe this move adequately without spoiling it. Netflix's synopsis is as bad as mine. If you're into decent acting and an extremely ... extreme story, try this one.

Oh - no action. Mostly character study.

Okay, cheerful it's not, but it really is well done. It stars Sarah Polley and Tim Robbins (and Julie Christie has a small but powerful part.)


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Both films mentioned in the lasts two posts are on my list. Felon sounds similar to the basic premise of HBO's Oz, and I'll watch anything with Julie Christie in it.

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Just saw a wonderful little movie for those who like a slower pace with richly develped characters.

The Visitor "Walter, a disengaged, widowed economics professor who returns to his Manhattan apartment after a long absence to find a young couple squatting there. Predictably, letting the couple stay with him until they find other lodgings shakes Walter out of autopilot. These are probably the three points that critics will fault the film for: 1) a certain level of predictability, 2) a few very unlikely events as key plot points and 3) an overly simple view of illegal immigration. When an illegal immigrant faces deportation in the film without breaking the law, characters keep repeating that he didn't do anything wrong, while some would argue that living undocumented in the country is a crime. Despite struggling to suspend disbelief with the movie's starting point and sometimes feeling confident of where the story was going, I enjoyed this film very much. The performances were spectacular across the board, the writing was crisp and drew genuine laughs and tears, and the exploration of INS detentation and deportation.


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Ardy, that one has come up in my Netflix "recommended" list for some time, but I've never quite got to it. I'll add it to my list now - thanks.
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wow, nice find Ardy

Our netflix is on hold right now but we're about ready to resume. I'll definitely add that



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Had the day off and watched "Body of War." This is a 90-minute documentary by Phil Donahue, music by
Eddie Vetter. It's about a veteran of the Iraqi War, Tomas Young, paralyzed from the chest down.

I can't tell you whether it's good or bad, I can only tell you that I cried at a couple of different places.

Worth watching if only to see Robert Byrd read the Goebbels quote below:

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“Naturally, the common people don't want war ... but after all it is the leaders of a country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship.

Voice, or no Voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in every country” - Goebels


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Didn't rent or buy, just saw it on a movie channel. "Reign Over Me" with Don Cheadle and Adam Sandler in the leads, Jada Pinkett Smith and Liv Tyler in very strong supporting roles.

I didn't know Sandler could actually act but he was outstanding. A rough picture to watch at times, but an excellent movie!


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Body and Reign are now on my netflix list. Dang, it's long. But not as long as the shelf of unreads.

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