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Hey Jeffro is that YOU I see outside my window disappearing back into the cul de sac looking for the short cut to the park?
It is a cool as hell place. Very pretty, very small. A lot of dogs. The poor river is only about half there anymore since the drought but it's still very pretty.

I've never seen anything...ahem naughty or dangerous or even weird. In fact the atmosphere is exceptionally sweet and laid back.

My next door neighbor was a very sick man (bi polar in fact). I'm convinced he was a closet gay man. He got banned from the park because he would go down there and pick fights.
How sad is that?
He was such a mess we finally had to ask his landlady to make him leave.

For the record, I am not anti religion either. I know many fine Christians who I admire greatly, their beliefs and the way they live but I think many Christians in recent years have gone over to a dark side. These folks can be very scary.

Heard an interview on TOTN today with someone matching this description. Another point she raised was that AA's did not at all appreciate the WeHo Halloween effigy that so strongly invoked lynching imagery.

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I wrote about this very same thing last week on the other thread about a Bay Area Black minister saying this was a "gay white male issue" because gay white men have never reached out to the Black community. (Check it out - it's there, I wrote it a week ago.) Seems to me that the Black community has their "talking points memo" well rehearsed.

Blacks are so offended when gays say this is a "civil rights" issue. Blacks vehemately disagree because being gay is a "choice"; therefore, it can't be a "civil rights" issue as being born with black skin.

When the talk show host pointed out that research is leaning towards gayness as genetic, the self-described Black listener stated that homosexuality is still a "choice."

I listened to a show on NPR last night that debated how much responsibility blacks have for killing Prop. 8. One woman said that it was not the blacks who were putting up the millions to fight it. It was white conservative churches and that blacks were being scapegoated to drive a wedge between gays and blacks.

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Here on Bay Area talk radio this subject has been discussed ad naseum since the elections. Black listeners state that they voted for Prop 8 because "homosexuality is wrong in the eyes of God" and that they are offended by the suggestion by gays that this is a "civil rights" issue - absolutely, unequivocally, offended by those labeling "gay marriage" as a "civil rights issue."

How dare gays equate gay marriage with civil rights?

True, but Blacks freely admit to voting for the Proposition.

You Ranters know where there term "down low" came from, don't you?

The term originated in the Black community because homosexuality is not embraced in Black culture to the extent that a Black gay or lesbian can't be their true self and must live the lie on the "down low" by cruising and having outside sexual relations to (temporarily) cure that constant yearning.

(Now "down low" has become so mainstream that it applies to a myriad of situations.)

Down low - Urban Dictionary:

DEFINITION 5:

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I'm not mad at the Black community, I'm just disappointed in the Black community. As I stated in the other thread, I'd expect Black Americans of all people to appreciate this struggle.

I've neglected to factor in their religious convictions.

...and I forgot to factor in the "AIDS factor" as well. In Black culture, AIDS = gay. Never mind that on other continents AIDS is a "heterosexual" issue.