Capitol Hill Blue Forums We shall overcome

You're good stereoman.

How many trophies did you win for your high school debate team?

Why isn't it a "good place" to "attack" "the followers." Can not "they" think for themselves?

I really don't see the difference:

Rick, attacking anyone has never seemed to me to win converts to a cause or a position. It can, as with the yes on 8 ads, excite those already committed to a cause or position, but that is not what we need.

We need to cause people to rethink (or maybe think) what they "know" about gay life and gay marriage as well as the principle of equal rights. I fail to see how attacking anyone or even any institution will bring that about.

I urge you to give people the space to make the changes themselves, albeit with your help and inspiration. Have you ever been "attacked" for being gay? How well did that work?

I urge you to give people the space to make the changes themselves, albeit with your help and inspiration. Have you ever been "attacked" for being gay? How well did that work?

I LOVE that image Rick. I've had it in my cube at work since you first posted it a few years ago.

It is appalling that President-elect Barack Obama would invite California Pastor Rev. Rick Warren, an ardent supporter of Prop 8 and someone who is opposed to the equality of LGBT Americans, to give the invocation at his inauguration.
Demand President-elect Obama to immediately rescind this invitation.
www.eqca.org/actioncenter
Would President-elect Obama invite someone to give the invocation who supported eliminating the civil rights of a minority other than the LGBT community? Of course he wouldn’t!

This is a slap in the face to the millions of LGBT Americans who supported his historic candidacy.
TAKE ACTION: Sign EQCA’s petition to President-elect Obama. Ask him to immediately rescind this despicable invitation.

Warren, who has made it a practice not to endorse candidates or political parties, wrote in October that the issue of gay marriage is not a political issue, but instead "a moral issue that God has spoken clearly about."

"For 5,000 years, every culture and every religion -- not just Christianity -- has defined marriage as a contract between men and women," Warren wrote in a newsletter to his congregation. "There is no reason to change the universal, historical definition of marriage to appease 2 percent of our population."

Warren also stirred controversy earlier this week when he told Beliefnet.com his grounds for opposing same-sex marriage lay primarily on his right of free speech.

"There were all kinds of threats that if [Proposition 8] did not pass, then any pastor could be considered doing hate speech if he shared his views that he didn't think homosexuality was the most natural way for relationships, and that would be hate speech."