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A court case now proceeding in Washington DC is claiming that native Taiwanese people are entitled to certain fundamental rights under the US Constitution. This is a new line of argument which has never been presented in the federal judiciary before. A summary of the legal rationale for the court case is here -- http://www.taiwanbasic.com/civil/tcourt.htmand other 2008 documentation is here -- http://www.civil-taiwan.org/usca.htmIn particular, the Nov. 3 and Dec. 17 Briefs make excellent reading.
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Why not accomplish your goals through the ballot box in ROC instead of the U.S. Courts? Are you worried you cannot prevail among your own countrymen?
"The white men were as thick and numerous and aimless as grasshoppers, moving always in a hurry but never seeming to get to whatever place it was they were going to." Dee Brown
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Imagine what would happen if the US attempted to excercise actual sovereignty over Taiwan.
I wonder if the Chinese government officials would snicker as they detonated the depth charges under our economy?
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Why not accomplish your goals through the ballot box in ROC instead of the U.S. Courts? Are you worried you cannot prevail among your own countrymen? How could any goals be accomplished through the ballot box in Taiwan??
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Why not accomplish your goals through the ballot box in ROC instead of the U.S. Courts? Are you worried you cannot prevail among your own countrymen? How could any goals be accomplished through the ballot box in Taiwan?? By voting in elections there, perhaps?
"The white men were as thick and numerous and aimless as grasshoppers, moving always in a hurry but never seeming to get to whatever place it was they were going to." Dee Brown
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Imagine what would happen if the US attempted to excercise actual sovereignty over Taiwan.
I wonder if the Chinese government officials would snicker as they detonated the depth charges under our economy? I doubt that the ChiComs are interested in committing economic, political, and social suicide.;-) Yours, Issodhos
"When all has been said that can be said, and all has been done that can be done, there will be poetry";-) -- Issodhos
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Imagine what would happen if the US attempted to excercise actual sovereignty over Taiwan.
I wonder if the Chinese government officials would snicker as they detonated the depth charges under our economy? The world would be free of the need for fossil fuels. We would have only to connect a series of high capacity turbines to the graves of Chairman Mao and his successors. The spinning in their graves would power the world, if not the solar system.
"The white men were as thick and numerous and aimless as grasshoppers, moving always in a hurry but never seeming to get to whatever place it was they were going to." Dee Brown
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A court case now proceeding in Washington DC is claiming that native Taiwanese people are entitled to certain fundamental rights under the US Constitution. Well, the US Constitution recognizes pre-existing rights such as the pre-existing right to the private ownership and use of firearms. Individual Taiwanese already have this natural right --though it is probably currently being infringed upon by the powers-that-be on Taiwan. So, do you support the recognition of this right as an entitlement of the Taiwanese as a free people, or are you opposed to this court case? Yours, Issodhos
"When all has been said that can be said, and all has been done that can be done, there will be poetry";-) -- Issodhos
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Imagine what would happen if the US attempted to excercise actual sovereignty over Taiwan.
I wonder if the Chinese government officials would snicker as they detonated the depth charges under our economy? The world would be free of the need for fossil fuels. We would have only to connect a series of high capacity turbines to the graves of Chairman Mao and his successors. The spinning in their graves would power the world, if not the solar system. Heh heh heh! Now that's funny.:-)) Yours, Issodhos
"When all has been said that can be said, and all has been done that can be done, there will be poetry";-) -- Issodhos
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A court case now proceeding in Washington DC is claiming that native Taiwanese people are entitled to certain fundamental rights under the US Constitution. Well, the US Constitution recognizes pre-existing rights such as the pre-existing right to the private ownership and use of firearms. Individual Taiwanese already have this natural right --though it is probably currently being infringed upon by the powers-that-be on Taiwan. So, do you support the recognition of this right as an entitlement of the Taiwanese as a free people, or are you opposed to this court case? The right of the people to keep and bear arms is not a "fundamental right" which applies to overseas US territories. Certainly, in Taiwan the populace has no right to keep and bear arms. Nor do we expect that to change after the full recognition of US administrative authority over Taiwan, and the native Taiwanese peoples' rights (under the Fifth Amendment) to hold "US national non-citizen" passports.
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