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Netanyahu Says Never to a State for Palestinians

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/17/world/middleeast/benjamin-netanyahu-campaign-settlement.html?_r=0

now THAT is a shocker....fnord

either he has totally changed his position
or
maybe he has just enunciated what has been his real position all along
maybe failure of negotiations is not entirely to be blamed on those danged Palestinians
because actually Netanyahu never wanted an agreement

maybe israeli participation in negotiations was just dog whistle politics

maybe bombing the bejezus out of palestine was about more than self defense

Agreed. This is not a Jewish thing, it's a greedy conservative thing, by conservatives who happen to be Jewish.

There is no way - none - that the genocide being perpetrated in Gaza is anything other than trying to bring to fruition Netanyahu's desire to eliminate the Palestinians as a people. He has said as much, and how anyone can argue otherwise it's mind boggling. Like Trump, we should take him literally and seriously.

Even the attack on World Central Kitchen was not an "accident". It was calculated to do exactly what it did - cut off aid to the population of Gaza. If the local commanders didn't intend this is irrelevant, it's what Bibi and his hand-picked confederates want. They are doing the absolute minimum to alleviate suffering in Gaza to give cover to their real intent. The IDF is obviously capable of doing so much more, but he won't allow it.

He's not just Zionist, he's a murderous fascist thug manipulating conditions to achieve his stated goal - "Israeli control from the river to the sea."

There is more going on in Palestine than the folks who tried to blow up Israel. How about the simple fact that Israel is taking Palestinian Homes. I read that the Jews of Palestine own all the land of Palestine because Rome took over Palestine several centuries ago. I do not think that is right nor do I think that there is anything legal about that. Anyway, Israel has been mis-treating Palestineans for a very long time and stealing their homes is just part of it. I should add that I am not anti jew, and don't really care about anybody's religion unless it causes me problems. I'm kinda old and, so far, I have never found somebody's religion to be effecting me and so its none of my business.

Its interesting. With all of the American-Israel-Palestine stuff going on. and all what's being said and reported this one is kinda ignored. The current problems, I suspect, have certainly caused some pretty bad blood between Israel and the Palestinians. That is especially true give that Israel has been slaughtering Palestinians with a will.

I was watching Netanyahu before anything happened and the man was REALLY down on the Palestinians. I read that then have been Israelis teenagers, that go into Palestinian areas to beat up, and sometimes kill Palestinians for pleasure! I have no idea if that is true but it has been reported. Anyway, there seems to me that this kind of behavior should be better reported.

Google "israel taking Palestinian homes" and read a bit about how Palestinians have been treated. Kinda interesting..........

I, for one, think that the Palestinians deserve to have there own country too.

Netanyahu never really believed in the two-state solution, which has the been the foundation of Mideast diplomatic initiatives for two decades, but he figured out that if he mouthed the words, he could gain access to the discussion table and slyly obstruct from there.

That's just what sociopaths do.

NutANDyahoo is a Zionist (Conservative Judaist). Zionists selfishly only want the land that Israel and the Palestinians now occupy all for themselves. This is why NutANDyahoo has inflicted so much carnage on the Palestinian people, currently. (Over 33,000 dead Palestinians since October 7, 2023 with 70% being women and children). This is contrary to the two-state solution proposed in 1948 when Israel was formed.

Rational folks who practice Judaism know the two-state solution is fair and reasonable and agree with the idea. Zionists won't give an inch. Ergo, the "problem" the area experiences today. Unfortunately, Israel's population is currently more Zionist than rational Judaists.

I think the simple fact is that Biden has already said there WILL be a Palestinian state. As far as I can tell that is one thing he will not give on. If it happens the Palestinians will actually have real freedom for the first time in a very long time.

I have read that Netanyahu really has no support except from the Israel hard right and would lose any election immediately. I think I heard that the last march against him was made with a MILLION anti-Netanyahu's and he doesn't stand a chance. Even most of Israel wants him gone.

I also firmly believe that his slaughter of the Palestinians was made on purpose. In speeches its obvious that he wants them ALL gone from their own lands. This is not a Jewish thing but yet another small group of extremists I think. The American way seems to be moving out to other places?

If everything works out then its next step time. This time creating an actual home for the Palestinians as originally planned. I watched them returning to where they lived and found just rubble.

That's gonna be pretty interesting!

Incidentally, the Palestinians are now full members of the UN. We voted NO, made no difference. I think they are entitled and, now, the trick will be to pick out a place that they can actually call their own. Netanyahu will have a FIT! The United States and the UK set up this whole mess. Its time to settle it!!

Its also interesting that Netanyahu is still charged with fraud, breach of trust and accepting bribes in three separate scandals involving powerful media moguls and wealthy associates. He denies wrongdoing. The Israeli court remains open on that one and continues, as far as I can tell. This actually makes Trump and Netanyahu kinda brothers at playing courts. Netanyahu has been fighting this whole thing since, I think, around 2019.

I just tried to look the whole thing up and found that its kinda mysterious right now but remains active.

Well, Biden seems to really not want to win the election. His latest display of this was to get angry when The prosecutor of the International Criminal Court is seeking arrest warrants against senior Hamas officials and top Israeli officials for alleged war crimes and crimes against humanity committed during the Oct. 7 attacks and the ongoing war in Gaza. This put him into agreement with Trump when it comes to Netanyahu. Netanyahu, and his supporters, are not all that supported by much of Israel but, apparently Biden is. Netanyahu has been fighting a war against civilians for a long time now and, finally somebody has called him out. They also have several thousand of them in prisons for apparently breathing. There are a lot of American voters that are not supporters of this war on civilians and children. I suspect, now, they are also not supporters of Biden.

I will vote for Biden. I am not against Israel but am against those folks doing everything in their power to destroy the Palestinians, including Netanyahu. Biden should have just kept his mouth shut this time.