<sigh> I am a firm believer that there are some things that should be socialized. Police, Firemen, libraries, healthcare, schools, etc. Some are and some should be. I am not, however, a socialist because that goes too far. Socialism is another political party which, when attempted has consistently failed do to their insistence in controlling ALL means of production. I know, its now become "democratic socialist" but the word is there and it just doesn't matter. It just doesn't work and the word "socialist" is politically a disaster and considered as such by most.

Its also true that you continue to insist on using the word and claiming you are one as well. We have beat this to death and I give up. You win and that's fine with me.

Have a nice day!