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#337817 10/30/2021 1:32 AM
by TatumAH
TatumAH
Emergence of Chloride as an Overlooked Cardiorenal Connector in Heart Failure

Is it the Sodium or the Chloride of NaCl that is the important factor in heart failure?
Good question!
Tat

Several studies have recently challenged the sodium-centric view that has been dominating the field of heart failure (HF) and cardiorenal syndrome. The previously observed benefits of severe dietary restriction of salt do not seem to be consistently reproduced by contemporary studies. Moreover, there is evidence that too low intake may paradoxically lead to adverse outcomes in more advanced stages of HF. Facing the escalating controversy, investigators have shifted their focus from sodium to its often overlooked counter ion in salt, the chloride. Emerging data suggest that serum chloride levels could portend robust independent prognostic value in a wide range of HF syndromes possibly stronger than that of sodium. The untoward impact of hypochloremia on the outcomes could be mechanistically linked to renal tubular regulatory pathways, neurohormonal activation, and diuretic resistance. As such, it can be a potential target of therapy in this setting. In this article, the authors provide a brief overview of the role of serum chloride as a cardiorenal connector and explore the context in which the contemporary data should be interpreted. Implementation of predictive and therapeutic strategies incorporating the emerging evidence would be refined through discussion of nuances of such findings as well as their biological and clinical relevance.
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#337855 Oct 31st a 04:36 AM
by Jeffery J. Haas
Jeffery J. Haas
Originally Posted by TatumAH
Emergence of Chloride as an Overlooked Cardiorenal Connector in Heart Failure

Is it the Sodium or the Chloride of NaCl that is the important factor in heart failure?
Good question!
Tat

My son Daryl just got home yesterday after three weeks at UCLA Medical Ctr's Cardiac ICU/CCU.
He had ballooned to 384 pounds, and the ER team wasn't sure he would make it.
Now, three weeks later he has emerged weighing 270, 114 pounds of water weight gone.

Four months ago, just as edema trouble was starting
[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

Last act of office at UCLA Medical, a quick shave. He's literally almost half the size he was going in.
129 pounds of water weight....GONE...in 25 days.


[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]
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by pdx rick
pdx rick
Originally Posted by Jeffery J. Haas
Originally Posted by pondering_it_all
Wow, amazing he survived that. How are his kidneys doing? They got quite a workout.

He DID have to take two or three days off the diuretics because his kidney was "screaming" but it recovered now.
Yeah, that IS a helluva lot of pissing!

Like the scene in Austin Powers when he's unfrozen after being cryogenically frozen. smile

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