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This is very interesting.

How Trump's trials will make a mess of the 2024 election

https://www.yahoo.com/news/how-trumps-trials-will-make-a-mess-of-the-2024-election-090024220.html

Or, a large segment of the voting population is currently ignoring the polls and not responding yet.

Would I welcome a significant primary challenger to Biden right now?
Only if it's obviously someone who has the juice, the electability, overwhelming popularity and a level of confidence and competence that is absolutely undeniable, even to Joe.

It would have to be someone who is so damn good that even Joe might consider volunteering to pass the torch.
But I have little to no worries that Joe can win the election.
I would entertain shuffles in the Veep slot but it's not as if I think Kamala is terrible, she's just been more of a behind the scenes Veep, which plenty of Veeps down through history HAVE been before her.

She is not a Dick Cheney. But gimme someone who is absolutely incredible like I talked about above and....sure okay, let's consider that option. They COULD BE a take charge Veep who reinforces Joe and is prepared in the event Joe DOES have to step aside. But that IS the historic role OF ALL Veeps.
LBJ got the job handed to him under worse circumstances, but let's remember, the government and the party were prepared for that possibility all along.

So it's not as if it's much different. Joe Biden doesn't have a wiped camshaft or a catastrophic connecting rod failure in the offing.

"Oh, Joe's a little old and a little tired, let's go ahead and give it to Trump!"
Are you ****ing kidding me? ????

All in all perotista's arguments for "the wisdom of independents" doesn't sound like a good advertisement for being an independent. If I didn't know better it's almost like saying independents really just want "the image of a strongman telling them what to think and do" without him actually BEING "a strong man"...just the appearance of it.

That's almost like wanting to force people into agreeing that WWE Wrestling is real.

Does that really sound like a good argument for being an independent, or does it sound more like an argument for being a sucker for media polling that was pre-designed to produce an already agreed upon desired polling result?

I bet twenty bucks that I can create a poll that says 65% of Americans want to contract terminal cancer if I hire enough think tanks to sell the idea of the benefits of terminal cancer to enough Americans.

The problem with humans is we need government to avoid total chaos.

The problem with government is humans.

It doesn't appear that getting rid of either one is an option...

That's what I feared is happening. What this means is that we have a congressional house where EVERYBODY needs to be replaced! Reason is simple, they are stuck and cannot do their jobs. The people on both sides who are actually willing to talk to the other side should probably setup another group. They could call it something like; Politicians Trying to Do Their Jobs I know, its not gonna happen but it would be good if they would. I think the other problem is that each side, in either party, fears the loons and jerks. Its truly a shame. Its a shame for the voters who screwed up, its a shame for the members of the congress who could actually do their jobs if they actually tried and didn't fear the wrath of their crazys, etc.

It would also be nice if our media actually reported who might, or might not, actually work with folks of like mind in the other side. Maybe all they need is a little push?

As an aside the Republicans are going to now try and pass a bill to take care of the southern border even though they have one which was put together by both sides that Trump forbid to get done. One would think that they might take a run at going after their existing loons and crazies. The republicans are so crazy they are going to ignore the bill that would give them both laurels and, instead, prove that they are all jackasses.

First it i not just the Democrats who are saying Trump is a danger to Democracy, it is a whole list of former Republican employees of Trump, former high level government officials, both partisan and not, including from the military, Constitutional attorneys, etc. Why is it not taking hold? How about the American electorate is simply ignorant and stupid. If you have seen any interviews of MAGA people, you would know how ignorant, stupid, and bigoted they are. These folks are in a political cult, so they will never change their mind. Only people not in the cult should be addressed. Are these folks too ignorant stupid not to realize what dangerous rhetoric Trump uses, or are they simply MAGA in disguise? What I do know is the Trump propaganda machine has baked in the misinformation and disinformation, so it will not make any difference touting Pres Biden's achievements.

We are on the precipice of the most precipitous election since the 1860 election. Democracy is on the line. Policy issues will not persuade the ignorant and stupid, however the threat of losing their freedom to a dictator may.

Biden beating Trump in the majority of polls

P ... I am not arguing the accuracy nor the efficacy of polls. My argument is it doesn't matter a mote what the polls are saying. I am arguing the fix is in and Trump will be the future occupant of the WH, regardless of what the future vote totals say.

Yep you read it here .... yes I am that mad voice alerting the populace of the Death of Democracy. Get ready to take the loyalty oath.

Rapace