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As I wrote last year, when they started cranking up the ol' play book, I suspected Dems would increasingly resort to playing the race card in this election season -- because it has worked so well for them over the years -- only to find that folks are no longer buying what they are peddling. I suspect they are too hidebound to realize it ain't working and will go "all in" with the whole deck. Should become increasingly entertaining to watch the dynamics of the two wings of the Party demonstrating their utterly corrupt venality. :-)
Yours,
Issodhos

well i see you didn't waste any time with your lame playbook

i foresee you increasingly resorting to use of universalization of the particular to foment disruptive discussions for your personal amusement ... i don't know who toure is but he doesn;t speak for the democratic party and certainly not for me

I do see the Dems putting a bit more emphasis on the "E" word in this round (elitist). The Repbubs have continued their focus on the "S" word (socialist).

Either way at this juncture I have a wonderful tomato harvest to be picked. So I will thus use the "P" word (picked).

Toure is a new face at MSNBC. He is outspoken and an African American which had be a dangerous combination even at MSNBC.

He is another voice added to the new programming of turning the one hour schedule into multiple hosts. Most news programs have a single host who reads his own opinions with an occasional guest to add debate. For most of the afternoon the hosts are presented in 4 or more hosts with 4 or more opinions. The Network has lost many hosts due to irate viewers of have an opposite opinion and the group presentations is working much better.

They all are striving for the popularity of Morning Joe. They often are better not having to deal with the sarcastic comedy voice of Joe who erases any possible serious debate. He searches for the laugh over any content of good reporting. The program improves when Joe is gone. Mika is a dedicated Liberal and makes to excuses for her point of view. I seldom agree with her words but she is polite to the guests. She adds the class to the show that Joe keeps trying to shout down.

When I first read this, I was a little concerned about Toure's counting skills. I traced the link to a link and caught more of Romney's remarks and found the other "anger."

I will certainly agree that this is not the strongest example of ... "race baiting" is too strong ... maybe, "race reminding" that I've seen since Obama was elected. Maybe Toure is just a bit sensitive because of a pattern of racially charged speech by a bunch of white guys. Not direct statements, just reminders that Obama is, after all, black.

But let's consider the phrase, "Play the race card". That phrase is often used to delegitimize honest claims of racial injustice. It is glib and dismissive. When I hear it, my ears prick up because I suspect that the speaker is about to make a racist comment to which I might be compelled to respond.

Oh my , but Dems are cranking up the race card to an almost daily basis, now.

Yours,
Issodhos

We can always count on you to bring up the race issue Issodhos.
Is this somehow different from "playing the race card"?

Oh, goodness, Greger, you know that tactic isn't going to work on me. This election is being saturated with race hustling from all the usual Dem and 'progressive' suspects -- and it is going to get a lot worse before it is over. So, let's not do the political correctness schtick -- it will just encourage others to do so.
Yours,
Issodhos

I really like a lively debate. And in debate, I believe that a debater must rebut the other side in addition to putting forth its own arguments. I could be wrong.

But my point is ... how can I rebut your proposition when I don't know what the heck it is? My shortcoming, I know.

Deconstructing your statement, you seem to be proposing that since the election is being saturated with 'whatever,' we shouldn't be politically correct because others might do it too, and then (I guess) we'd all be polite and nauseating and stuff.

Since I can't rebut your non sequitur, let me just ask this question ...

race hustling? From "Dem and 'progressive' suspects"?

REALLY?

Which party is trying to capitalize on "race"?

Oh, my, Spag! I fear that you are falling into He Who Shall Never Make A Point's trap. Your assumption about what the point is will always be wrong, and it will now be your fault for making it.

Do you know the old children's story about the tarbaby? Some will say that is a racist story, but I once had a job maintaining a couple of acres of old glass greenhouses where the glass was laid shingle-style bedded in tar, and I learned the truth of the tarbaby. I can assure you that it is impossible to handle tar without it getting smeared in the most unlikely places, and one cannot avoid getting smeared.

You are attempting to debate the tarbaby...

I think the Democratic wing of the Party has happily excelled at exploiting race and racial tensions for decades, Spag-hetti, using it to silence criticism and to cow opposition. The Republican wing of the party has been willing to eagerly benefit from the inevitable backlash, mainly 'whites', but runs for the hills in panic at the first whispered charge of 'racism'. That is, I think, why Dems have so eagerly relied on it as the Great Silencer. I do not think there are many voters who are any longer going to fall for that hustle simply because there are so many examples of races other than 'white' who have made it in America, and who hold high-powered positions of power in politics, society, and business. Your milage may vary.:-)
Yours,
Issodhos

Interesting article on that by Joe Fitzgerald in today's Herald.

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/columnists/view/20220818liberals_exploitingblacks_is_tired_trend/

Black history hasn’t taught us much, or so it seems when we see it continually reduced to a self-serving prop by those who regard it as a tool for advancement.

Joe Biden telling a Virginia crowd of blacks that GOP policies are “gonna put y’all back in chains” is just any echo of shameless exploitations we’ve all heard before.

It’s Ted Kennedy suggesting, “Robert Bork’s America is a land in which ... blacks would sit at segregated lunch counters.”

How could this late liberal lion exploit those Americans who were martyred at those counters for something much greater than a cheap punch line?

It’s John Kerry telling the congregation at Roxbury’s Twelfth Baptist Church that “a vote for Bill Weld is a vote for Jesse Helms,” as if his Republican opponent was a kindred spirit to the KKK.

Did he not realize how monstrous that allegation was, or did he simply not care?

It’s Chuck Turner, ejected from the Boston City Council for accepting a bribe, railing how “African-Americans were brought to this country as slaves, (and) we were whipped and lashed and hung.”

In that pathetic attempt to divert attention from his own corruption, he cheapened the blood those ancestors shed by using it to wash his dirty hands.

It’s Harvard professor Henry Louis Gates Jr., arrested for mouthing off to a Cambridge cop, saying he planned to donate the handcuffs used to shackle him to the Smithsonian Institute’s museum of black history, as if he had personally challenged Bull Connor.

No one should be allowed to refer to the Peculiar Institution that existed in the past when discussing the present or their own particular inadequacies. It does nothing but cheapen the sufferings of the past while seeking to suffer the sins of the Fathers unto later generations. The only "racism" in existence today is the rabid discrimination against and demonizing of White, Christian men of means.

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Yes, indeed, Issodhos, you and I should agree with Irked, above!!
Obviously, racism is no longer a problem in the United States, and no one would even notice the hue of a person's skin if the Democrats were not constantly drawing our attention to it !!

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I think Jesse Helms was perhaps the monster....
WIKI-Jesse Helms
Make of it what you will, but Helms stood for pretty much everything the KKK stands for. But that doesn't make him a racist by any means.
For what it's worth Bill Weld had his own problems with Jesse Helms:
Wiki-Bill Weld So I'd say the statement wasn't "monstrous, it was just plain silly.

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It is amazing how all the monsters turn out at election season !!

Did that answer your question, Spag-hette?
Yours,
Issodhos

It saddens me when some claim that any mention of race is racist, when in fact racism is a deep strain in American politics. It is hidden nowadays by all sorts of deflections and rationalizations, not the least of which is the most racist of all -- that there is no racism in Amerika.

There is no human being who does not notice differences among the appearances of each human being. To claim that one either does not notice the differences or that when noticed there is absolutely no difference in how one thinks at the instant of noticing is either hopelessly deluded or dishonest.

I think this is a good example of ignoratio elechi, Hoskins. No one has made any such claim, nor is noticing differences in skin color or features a part of the definition of racism. Now, back to the topic?
Yours,
Issodhos

Exactly what I mean. Thanks for the illustration.

let's see you are saying the dems say stuff ... well how about the folks who do stuff

"Doug Priesse, who is the chairman of the Franklin County Republican Party and a member of that county’s Board of Elections, told the Columbus Dispatch, “I guess I really actually feel we shouldn’t contort the voting process to accommodate the urban — read African-American — voter-turnout machine. … Let’s be fair and reasonable.”"

there is a wide spread pattern of this kind of activity fomented by the republican party ... so Biden talks about chains and the GOP simply disenfranchises ... i guess in your mind ... o crap i simply can not imagine what is in your mind

It appears tarbaby has been popular in these environs for quite some time!