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Scott Peters of San Diego began his congressional careet with No Labels, and is now runnin as a progressive. His voting record tends to be center to center right. I think he is an opportunist.
“If you think you've got an inside track to absolute truth, you become doctrinaire, humorless and intellectually constipated." Saul Alinskey
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The reason that this site is civil discourse is because it has realistic rules of conduct that are moderated fairly, honestly, and maturely. It has nothing to do with the political leanings of this site.
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The reason that this site is civil discourse is because it has realistic rules of conduct that are moderated fairly, honestly, and maturely. It has nothing to do with the political leanings of this site. Agreed.
You never change things by fighting the existing reality.
To change something, build a new model that makes the old model obsolete.
R. Buckminster Fuller
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The reason that this site is has civil discourse is because it has realistic rules of conduct that are moderated fairly, honestly, and maturely. It has nothing to do with the political leanings of this site. Fixed.
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When George Bush was in office, I was incensed much of the time, but I tried not to let that bleed into my interactions. I still have the capacity to be shocked by the level of personal invective that can be thrown about. It doesn't help when you have Supreme Court Justices who love ad hominem attacks and see it as sport. If the most tradition-bound institution engages in that kind of behavior, and Congress does as well, how is civil discourse ever possible? I happened to agree with the President's sentiment that "people of good intentions" inhabit both sides. I want to find more of them.
A well reasoned argument is like a diamond: impervious to corruption and crystal clear - and infinitely rarer.
Here, as elsewhere, people are outraged at what feels like a rigged game -- an economy that won't respond, a democracy that won't listen, and a financial sector that holds all the cards. - Robert Reich
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I was okay with George Bush up until the Iraq war. I have even since forgiven him for most of what happened during his presidency. Many don't understand this but I believe that without Richard Cheney controlling him and directing his every move things would have been much different. At the end Cheney wanted war with Iran, more profit of course for Halliburton, Bush refused to go along. The two never spoke much after that.
I believe now that President Bush actually had good intentions, but you know what the road to Hell is paved with....
Good coffee, good weed, and time on my hands...
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"Bein' President... heh, heh.. I mean, how hard can it be? Heh, heh..."
You never change things by fighting the existing reality.
To change something, build a new model that makes the old model obsolete.
R. Buckminster Fuller
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There is one bit of comfort that I take from the last dozen years or so, and that is that the conservative base continues to shrink. Maybe those friends will come back when they are not so conservative.
A well reasoned argument is like a diamond: impervious to corruption and crystal clear - and infinitely rarer.
Here, as elsewhere, people are outraged at what feels like a rigged game -- an economy that won't respond, a democracy that won't listen, and a financial sector that holds all the cards. - Robert Reich
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