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That is one of an infinite number of other possible scenarios. But, sadly, we'll never know.


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I think it actually says a lot about the "innate superiority" of white people. They think they are superior, but actually they are not as smart as people of color. Hillary was obviously a better choice than Trump in terms of economic and political self-interest for all those white women, and yet they voted for Trump.

White women in particular are much more gullible than women of color. Female misogyny is a real thing, and maybe enlightened women need to help their sisters to learn to reject it.

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White women have had it a lot easier, especially white women as opposed to women of color - being a minority and a woman is a double whammy.


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Absolutely: White women have a sense that they can be wives, with a husband "taking care of them". Much more security, but the trade off is self reliance and self esteem. Women of color have always had to take care of themselves as well as fend off unwanted sexual advances.

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Bernie at a Crossroads

Bernie, I know you know that politics is the art of the possible.
I admire everything you stand for and support you and your ideas a hundred percent.
But the real actual "Democratic Socialist Party" tossed you overboard a long time ago and when you announced, their reaction was juvenile, something along the lines of "Yawn, what a sellout, not revolutionary enuff."
Know what, Bernie? You have done MORE for the Democratic Party than ANYBODY in over a generation.
JOIN the Democratic Party, Bernie Sanders.

Join them because without you, the party is finished for a generation.
There is NO ONE in the DNC elite that has HALF the brains you have or half the commitment, or half the passion or charisma.
I know that you love that old rebel Dem Soc badge and you wear it close to your heart the way any good soldier does. But given the lack of love from your own Democratic Socialist Party, it’s really more like a tiny clump of long hair on the back of an old bald baby boomer who thinks that his “tail” is a secret freak flag.
But deep down, you are even better...you are, in fact, an excellent New Deal Democrat and I mean that as a COMPLIMENT.
You are so much better than just a Democratic Socialist, you are a unique brand.

Do it Bernie, join the Democratic Party and lead the charge to RETOOL them from top to bottom, and I will follow you through a mile of broken glass and the fires of Hell.
I still will even if you decide not to join them but I just can't help thinking it would do much more good, and it would prevent those old loser bastards from heaping scorn upon you and muttering that "you're an outsider". These old hacks LOST this election for us.
Join them so that you can make them take their medicine.


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Originally Posted by pondering_it_all
I think it actually says a lot about the "innate superiority" of white people. They think they are superior, but actually they are not as smart as people of color. Hillary was obviously a better choice than Trump in terms of economic and political self-interest for all those white women, and yet they voted for Trump.

White women in particular are much more gullible than women of color. Female misogyny is a real thing, and maybe enlightened women need to help their sisters to learn to reject it.

So Hillary is channeling her inner Sherrif Bart?


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Originally Posted by Jeffery J. Haas
Bernie at a Crossroads

Bernie, I know you know that politics is the art of the possible.
I admire everything you stand for and support you and your ideas a hundred percent.
But the real actual "Democratic Socialist Party" tossed you overboard a long time ago and when you announced, their reaction was juvenile, something along the lines of "Yawn, what a sellout, not revolutionary enuff."
Know what, Bernie? You have done MORE for the Democratic Party than ANYBODY in over a generation.
JOIN the Democratic Party, Bernie Sanders.

Join them because without you, the party is finished for a generation.
There is NO ONE in the DNC elite that has HALF the brains you have or half the commitment, or half the passion or charisma.
I know that you love that old rebel Dem Soc badge and you wear it close to your heart the way any good soldier does. But given the lack of love from your own Democratic Socialist Party, it’s really more like a tiny clump of long hair on the back of an old bald baby boomer who thinks that his “tail” is a secret freak flag.
But deep down, you are even better...you are, in fact, an excellent New Deal Democrat and I mean that as a COMPLIMENT.
You are so much better than just a Democratic Socialist, you are a unique brand.

Do it Bernie, join the Democratic Party and lead the charge to RETOOL them from top to bottom, and I will follow you through a mile of broken glass and the fires of Hell.
I still will even if you decide not to join them but I just can't help thinking it would do much more good, and it would prevent those old loser bastards from heaping scorn upon you and muttering that "you're an outsider". These old hacks LOST this election for us.
Join them so that you can make them take their medicine.

Jeff, dear friend, if we don't take corporate money OUT of the Democratic Party, all of Bernie's good intentions will be for naught.


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Bernie's OpEd in the NY Times:

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In the coming days, I will also provide a series of reforms to reinvigorate the Democratic Party. I believe strongly that the party must break loose from its corporate establishment ties and, once again, become a grass-roots party of working people, the elderly and the poor. We must open the doors of the party to welcome in the idealism and energy of young people and all Americans who are fighting for economic, social, racial and environmental justice. We must have the courage to take on the greed and power of Wall Street, the drug companies, the insurance companies and the fossil fuel industry.

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Though not a Sanders supporter, we must change, so I look forward to seeing this.


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