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They have have spent the last 40 years destroying the dollar and every other currency, they have had a World Monetary System and World Currency for the last 40 years and its called the Fiat Monetary System. If you read the Fabian Socialist Political and Economic Planning Committee you will readily see that they have been extremely successful in their plans, the Fiat System is their plan and it has worked. They have worked extremely hard over the last 100 years to put this system in place, but they also placed far more faith in their ability to maintain such a system. The only way they could impose such a system was to piggy-back on a sound money system, they have nothing else upon which to build. They cannot replace the current system with a cashless system, because they have basically had that system embedded in the current Fiat System since the vast majority of the worlds currency is digital anyway. I don't give very much credence to the idea that the NWO is causing this latest panic as a gateway to a new global system, they already have that system in place and have for at least the last 40 years. I think the system is falling apart and with that collapse their power and wealth will also collapse.

I see an end to the NWO not a beginning, in fact, I see an end to the Debt Standard of Fiat Money, and end of the Fiat System and the Fractional Reserve System, along with the power-structure that has been so carefully built up around it.

Rep-Sed, you use the terms "they" and "their"
some 14 times in this post which covers a worldwide monetary conspiracy that's been in effect some 100 years.
Roughly the same number of times that Senator McCain called us "My friends" over a 90 minute span of time.
Is it not possible this thing...this Fiat Monetary System didn't simply evolve over the course of time? Has it really been the plan of the Galactic Overseers since the dawn of man? I don't doubt your amazing and superior knowledge of these things, I'm just not one to buy into long term conspiracies or that Certain Wealthy Families rule the world always have always will.

Actually no, it is no possible that it simply evolved, there is no where in history where it simply evolved as a natural progression of monetary mechanics. Every instance of the use of both a fiat system and a fractional reserve system took planning, very detailed planning. Now, if you read the writings of the Fabian Socialists during the later part of the 1800s and the first part of the 1900s, you will quickly see that there were certain plans that were draw up in detail and then if you compare those details you will quickly see that indeed they have been implemented.
There are an unimaginable number of "conspiracy theories" regarding the New World Order, some with merit, most are simply illogical and without merit. I will not delve into the initial beginning of this "New World Order", but I begin at a pertinent point in its history that will, hopefully, explain just what their plans have been, how those plans have been implemented and how they will ultimately be defeated by their own plans.

It is vital to understand that the New World Order is inextricably tied to the Fabian Socialists which formed in England during the later part of the 1800s and their intricate plans for a global fascist-socialistic society. In fact, there is no New World Order outside of the Fabian Socialist agenda. It should be remembered that the Fabian Socialists were equally accepted in both the Nazi/Fascist and the Communist/Marxist/Leninist/Maoist/Trotskite ideologies. The Fabians have been, throughout their history, political and social chameleons who have, through stealth and deception, changed their outer skin to infiltrate every political, social and educational institution around the world, particularly in Great Britain and the United States. Speaking of chameleons, the primary symbol of the Fabians is a "wolf wrapped in a sheep's skin".

The Fabians, like all socialists, are completely dedicated to the centralization of all power, in all aspects of society and government. Their primary push as been to advance the idea that the power of government, The State, is the center of society. Fabians are not above calling themselves anti-socialist, conservatives, liberals, moderates, or any other name in order to achieve their goals of centralization. They are not above joining any group that can be used to influence official and public opinion to achieve their goals and indeed, they have succeeded over the decades to do just that. The rise of The State, its well-being and the gradual increase in its power is of primary importance to the Fabians over any and all considerations for the individual. Their goal has been to wean the individual away from self-dependence and responsibility toward a dependency on The State and a sense of responsibility toward the "common good".

Their "silent revolution" undermines a nation from within, deep within the bowels of the society in order accommodate a gradual, incremental transformation into a socialist society. One of the famous Fabians was George Bernard Shaw, the playwright, he stated clearly the techniques the Fabians used: "Our propaganda is one of permeating - we urged our members to join the Liberal and Radical Associations in their district, or, if they preferred it, the Conservative Associations - we permeated the party organizations and pulled all the strings we could lay our hands on with the utmost adroitness and energy, and we succeeded so well that in 1888 we gained the solid advantage of a Progressive majority full of ideas that would never have come into their heads had not the Fabians put them there."

In 1889, Sidney Webb, another Fabian said:
"The Fabian Society occupies a different sphere as a Socialist Society from that of the two larger bodies. It includes members of all the other organizations, with a number of active workers chiefly of the middle class, and 'literary proletariat'. . . . The Society exercises a considerable influence, more real than apparent, by the personal participation of its members in nearly all reform movements, as well as by their work at the Universities and in the fields of journalism and the teaching of Political Economy. It is not, however, a numerous body, and makes no attempt to increase its numbers beyond a convenient limit."

In his book The New Despotism, Lord Hewart, written in 1929, revealed the serious nature of the Fabians involvement in the British government: "A mass of evidence establishes the fact that there is in existence a persistent and well-contrived system, intending to produce, and in practice producing, a despotic power which at one and the same time places Government departments beyond the sovereignty of Parliament and beyond the jurisdiction of the Courts."

It is evident that the expansion of the Fabian Socialist Plan has been successfully extended to the United States with the primary push during the Administration of Franklin D. Roosevelt in the 30s and 40s. Needless to say, the Fabians had a direct influence on Woodrow Wilson and the creation of several pieces of legislation, including the Federal Reserve Act, as well as the 16th and 17th Amendments; all of which set the stage for every component for the future implementation of the Fabian Plan. The primary influence on Wilson was Colonel Edward Mandell House, the Fabian who was influential in the founding of the Council on Foreign Relations along with the bankers: J. P. Morgan, John D. Rockefeller, Bernard Baruch, Otto Kahn, Jacob Schiff and Paul Warburg. As we know, House was also heavily involved with the creation of the Federal Reserve Bank, the Round Table Group and the forerunner of the United Nations, the League of Nations. All, each and every one of these institutions, including any ancillary organizations, is completely Fabian in concept, ideology and agenda.

"The crisis [the Great Depression] discovered a great man in Franklin Roosevelt...None too soon he has carried America forward to the second stage of democratic realization. His New Deal involves such collective controls of the national business that it would be absurd to call it anything but socialism, were it not for a prejudice lingering on from the old individualist days against that word...Both Roosevelt and Stalin were attempting to produce a huge, modern, scientifically organized, socialist state, the one out of a warning crisis and the other out of a chaos..." H.G. Wells The Fate of Man 1939

Now, another extremely important point of understanding of the Fabian Socialist can be found in a book by Colonel House called Philip Dru: Administrator. In this book Colonel House describes the political agenda of the Fabians in the implementation of the New World Order under the Administration of the Fabian Socialists. It is a very scary scenario and the strategies found in this book have been enacted, step by step, stage by stage, ever since it was written. Within it can be found the plan of having a small, select group of powerful insiders causing a depression which compels the country to elect a man who just happens to talk to the people in what is called "fireside chats" in which this newly elected president will introduce and launch a plan called "The New Era".[now remember this book was written in 1912] From that point, these insiders [Fabians]control the government, control the banks and corporations, weaken the country to the point that there is a very real chance of society splitting in civil war, at which point a dictatorship is imposed on the justification of keeping the country together. The character in the book that assumes dictatorial power is named Philip Dru, the Administrator.

There is absolutely no doubt that the implementation of the New Deal was nothing more than that of the Fabian Socialist Plan. The Fabian Political and Economic Planning Committee proved indispensable in the formation of the New Deal, in fact if you read what the New Deal accomplished and compare it to the Fabian P.E.P. they are almost indistinguishable from each other. A portion of the Fabian P.E.P. stated: "The individualistic manufacturer and farmer will be forced by events to submit to far-reaching changes in outlook and methods. What is required, if with only a view to equitable treatment of individuals, is transfer of ownership of large blocks of land - not necessarily of all the land in the country, but certainly a large proportion of it - into the hands of the proposed statutory corporations and public utility bodies and of land trusts."

Another principal instrument used in the New Deal creation was the monetary and economic policies proposed by John Maynard Keynes and the Marxist Dexter White. White, of course, played a primary role in the development of the Bretton Woods Agreement in 1944 and the establishment of the IMF. In fact, White was later appointed the Director of the IMF by President Truman.

The great American Patriot John T. Flynn stated in his book entitled The Road Ahead that there was a "creeping revolution" taking place in the United States and made a clear connection between Fascism and Fabian Socialism when he said: ". . . the line between Fascism and Fabian Socialism is very thin. Fabian Socialism is the dream. Fascism is Fabian Socialism plus the inevitable dictator."

The Fabian Socialist have intentionally presented their ideology within a very socially acceptable package; humanitarian in appearance and approach, its actual purpose is complete, absolute power over society as administered through an iron fist covered in a kid-skin glove.

John Maynard Keynes promoted his services as a capitalist economist, but the reality of his politics and his economics were far from capitalistic. One Fabian Socialist by the name of John Strachey was very clear about the true intentions of Keynesian Economics and monetary policy. He proposed Keynesian policies as "an indispensable step in the right direction. The fact that the loss of objectivity, and the intrinsic value of the currency which is involved (i.e., inflation) will sooner or later make necessary, on pain of ever-increasing dislocation, a growing degree of social control . . . for the partial character of the policy will itself lead on to further measures. The very fact that no stability, no permanently workable solution can be found within the limits of this policy will ensure that once a community has been driven by events to tackle its problems, in this way, it cannot halt at the first stage, but must of necessity push on to more thorough going measures of re-organization."

Keynes stated: "Lenin is said to have declared that the best way to destroy the Capitalist System was to debauch the currency. By a continuing process of inflation, governments can confiscate, secretly and unobserved, an important part of the wealth of their citizens. By this method they not only confiscate, but they confiscate arbitrarily; and, while the process impoverishes many, it actually enriches some. The sight of this arbitrary rearrangement of riches strikes not only at security, but at confidence in the equity of the existing distribution of wealth. Those to whom the system brings windfalls, beyond their deserts and even beyond their expectations or desires, become 'profiteers,' who are the object of the hatred of the bourgeoisie, whom the inflationism has impoverished, not less than of the proletariat. As the inflation proceeds and the real value of the currency fluctuates wildly from month to month, all permanent relations between debtors and creditors, which form the ultimate foundation of capitalism, become so utterly disordered as to be almost meaningless; and the process of wealth-getting degenerates into a gamble and a lottery."

Sounds like a familiar process doesn't it? The fact is that the Fabians have been in, in one degree or another, control of this country since at least the later part of the 1800s, some may say since 1860 with the nationalist putsch by Lincoln [who was influenced by Marxists from the failed revolution of 1848] and have continued to press their agenda into a Socialist society.

Perhaps one of the most important points to understand is the purpose of the central banking system and the fiat monetary system to the Fabian Socialist New World Order Plan. As explained by H.G. Wells, in his 1930 book entitled The New World Order:

"…we grasp this not very obscure truth that there can be, and are, different sorts of money dependent on the economic usages or system inoperable, which are not really interchangeable, then it becomes plain that a collectivist world order, whose fundamental law is such a Declaration of Rights as we have sketched, will have to carry on its main, its primary operations at least with a new world money, a specially contrived money, differing in its nature from any sort of money conventions that have hitherto served human needs. It will be issued against the total purchasable output of the community in return for the workers' services to the community."

H.G. Wells described that as a part, one of the primary parts of the Fabian New World Order’s Plan was the contrivance of a monetary system that would be issued, through a central banking system, against the total productive output of the society exchangeable in return for labor. The description is striking because what it denotes is a monetary system where there is no real value to the money itself, in other words a fiat currency, but the “value” would be the production of labor. Now, if you put this together with the quotes from Keynes, you will quickly see that the key to their plan was a highly centralized government with a highly centralized banking system issuing a monetary unit, which through the instrument of inflation, would be reduced from an actual value to a value based solely upon the exchange of labor. This was a truly socialistic concept, that inflation would be used to transform the sound monetary system of the United States into a socialistic monetary system where the exchange rate is the actual labor of the population. Today, that is what we have, our money has no value, but it is exchanged based upon labor.

I realize that many think the New World Order is simply playing the next stage in their plans to impose a complete socialistic society during this latest economic crisis, but in my research I see a very different story. Based on the Fabian Socialist Political and Economic Planning Committee, the New World Order has made no other plans for another monetary system except the Fiat Monetary System and Central Banking System that are now in place and which are now in crisis. I am of the opinion that the New World Order is in trouble, the elite is in trouble because the system that they have spent at least the last 95 years investing all of their power, their time, their resources and intellect in is rapidly approaching a period of time when it will completely collapse. For decades they have pressed their plans, all based on a socialistic vision of creating little more than a feudal system of peonage where the people make up the productive base of their wealth through a system of confiscation and transference from the people themselves into the coffers of the Elite Administrators. Their Socialist Empire is completely built upon and dependent on the continuation of this system; the only system left to them would be a system of complete slavery and that is untenable and totally non-conducive to their plans of Socialism because it would not allow for the continued productive transfer of wealth as the current system allows.

The Fabians have been involved in many things, including education. They began The London School of Economics, they also began The New School in New York. The connections and associations with this parent group are complex and extremely widespread and have influenced governments and corporations for generations.

Now, I leave you with these horrible thoughts from one of the Fabian Traitors, David Rockefeller: "We are grateful to the Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries."

So, thats a good place to start and believe me it is one of the most interesting and amazing studies that you will ever indulge yourself.

Here are a few quotes from people who should have a good indication about what is going on:


"The nation's immediate problem is that while the common man fights America's wars, the intellectual elite sets its agenda. Today, whether the West lives or dies is in the hands of its new power elite: those who set the terms of public debate, who manipulate the symbols, who decide whether nations or leaders will be depicted on 100 million television sets as 'good' or 'bad.' This power elite sets the limits of the possible for Presidents and Congress. It molds the impressions that move the nation, or that mire it.
--from "The Real War" (1980) by President Richard Nixon

There is... little doubt that the American power elite has... planned and plotted... The power elite is not altogether 'surfaced.'... With the wide secrecy covering their operations and decisions, the power elite can mask their intentions, operations and further consolidation…. New men come into it [the power elite] and assume its existence without question.
--from "The Power Elite" (1956) by Columbia University sociologist C. Wright Mills

"A world association binding together and coordinating regional groupings of states may evolve toward one universal federal government... World government is the ultimate aim, but there is more chance of attaining it by gradual development." Rhodes Scholar P.E. Corbett 1942

"A world effectively controlled by the United Nations is one in which 'world government' would come about through the establishment of supranational institutions, characterized by... some ability to employ physical force... [But] if the communist dynamic was greatly abated, the West might lose whatever incentive it has for world government. However, a grave crisis or war to bring about a sudden transformation in national attitudes sufficient for the purpose... The order we examine may be brought into existence as a result of a series of sudden, nasty, and traumatic shocks."" CFR Member Lincoln Bloomfield 1962

"...a new world order must be organized... In certain fields, sovereignty has to be exercised collectively... The principle of sovereignty must be adapted in such a way as to balance... the interests of nations with the interests of the global neighborhood... We strongly endorse community initiatives to... encourage the disarming of civilians... We would like to see a permanent international criminal court instituted as a matter of the highest priority.... We are... in need of a mobilizing principle... a new world order that secures the ascendancy of global neighborhood values over divisive nationalism." The Global Commission on Governance-UN

"Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men's views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of somebody, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it. American industry is not free, as once it was free; American enterprise is not free; the man with only a little capital is finding it harder to get into the field, more and more impossible to compete with the big fellow. Why? Because the laws of this country do not prevent the strong from crushing the weak. That is the reason, and because the strong have crushed the weak the strong dominate the industry and the economic life of this country."
-- Woodrow Wilson, The New Freedom, 1913

"The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the larger centers has owned the Government ever since the days of Andrew Jackson."
-- President Roosevelt, Letter to Colonel House, November 1933.

"The powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent private meetings and conferences."
-- Professor Carroll Quigley, Tragedy & Hope, 1966

"It is to be expected that advances in physiology and psychology will give governments much more control over individual mentality than they now have even in totalitarian countries. Fichte laid it down that education should aim at destroying free will, so that, after pupils have left school, they shall be incapable, throughout the rest of their lives, of thinking or acting otherwise than as their schoolmasters would have wished. But in his day this was an unattainable ideal. . . .
In (the) future such failures are not likely to occur where there is dictatorship. Diet, injections, and injunctions will combine, from a very early age, to produce the sort of character and the sort of beliefs that the authorities consider desirable, and any serious criticism of the powers that be will become psychologically impossible. Even if all are miserable, all will believe themselves happy, because the government will tell them that they are so." Bertrand Russell

Amazing RS simply amazing.

Greger, if you really want to read a truly shocking bit of information then please read, if you can find it, the 1970s "white paper" published by the CFR [Council on Foreign Relations] entitled "1980s Project". In it there is a description of what they called "Controlled Disintegration" which precisely laid out a plan to basically bring about a global economic crisis for the sole purpose of gaining far more control over the global market place and the population. The "1980s Project" included plans for implementing a form of world governing body that closely resembles that promoted by both Bertrand Russel and H.G. Wells. The CFR stated that this next step would be the largest undertaking in history.


Another work by the CFR was entitled "Alternatives to Monetary Disorder" in which a very detailed blueprint is laid out for the disruption and consolidation of economic forces in this and other countries. Now, there are also indications that there were some who feared that once this process began that it would move beyond their ability to control it, once such person was Alan Greenspan who expressed his concerns in a speech before several of the groups at a conference on Global Financial Infrastructure on May 7, 1998. Basically, Greenspan stated that "they" needed to understand the risks that the heretofore "controlled disintegration" could potentially move into a "uncontrolled disintegration" and no longer just the controlled one they had so carefully engineered.

Interesting isn't it? So, does it sound like a conspiracy?

I had some idea that this meltdown had been engineered and timed for the election, if what you say is true then it's far more complicated than just that.

Has anyone notified Mexico that it is no longer a part of North America?
Yours,
Issodhos

Nope, and I believe that the word "conspiracy" has been made radioactive to the point where it no longer carries its traditional meaning.

It does not sound like a conspiracy at all.
It sounds like a well thought out business plan.
Kinda like this:

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I guess my answer is yes, it sounds like a conspiracy theory to me. But like the Gravitational Theory I'm willing to tentatively accept it. It's doomed, though like every other worldwide scheme monarchy and empire. Because, just to use an example, George H.W.Bush is always succeeded by a simple idiot like George W.

Rockefeller and Morgan will do what they will do, they'll play the games that rich men play
and the rest of us will survive.
Bakers, Carpenters, Plumbers and IT guys will learn our trades and ply them
and stay fed until we die.