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I wish this discussion had not encroached upon this thread, and I apologize for extending the encroachment. Can we get back to this topic and leave that discussion for the other thread, please?
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Didn't mean to kill the thread. I have just about had it with religious intolerance on this subject. I am enjoying watching Carrie Preach-on getting flak, not for her comments, but for the utter hypocrisy of her position in light of her "au naturel" photographs. I actually supported her response, not because I agree at all, but she was set up by Perez Hilton, which I thought was a dirty trick, and she simply spoke her mind - and agreed with a majority of the California voters who voted in favor of Prop 8. Now, of course, I am enjoying her come-uppance.
Now we have preachers trying to undo the Maine legislative process, and objecting to our legal processes. Screw 'em. While I completely support their ability to have views, when they start getting involved in the political process, they have crossed the line. Remove their tax exemptions. They are no longer a spiritual community, they are now a political PAC. I am tired of them trying to impose their religious views on the public. Remember separation of church and state? How about separation of church and sanity? F'em. Really, it disgusts me. Intolerant bigots, period.
A well reasoned argument is like a diamond: impervious to corruption and crystal clear - and infinitely rarer.
Here, as elsewhere, people are outraged at what feels like a rigged game -- an economy that won't respond, a democracy that won't listen, and a financial sector that holds all the cards. - Robert Reich
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The Gay version of Miss California Carrie Prejean. ![[Linked Image from i48.photobucket.com]](http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f228/ca_rickf/Smilies/icon_evil.gif)
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We shall overcome, one celebrity at a time.  In an interview with Los Angeles radio station KOST 103.5, Marie Osmond confirmed rumors that her daughter Jessica is a lesbian and spoke about her views on marriage equality. Though the interviewer suggested the question might be "a sensitive topic" because of Osmond’s Mormon faith, the entertainer didn't hold back.
“That’s not a sensitive topic, I love my daughter,” said Osmond with a laugh.
Last week, the U.K. publication The Sun suggested all may not be well between Osmond and her daughter. But Osmond went on to say that though the Mormon Church may not agree with homosexuality, she isn’t imposing those beliefs on her children.
“You know, on those types of things I'm very supportive. When it comes to marriage, I think that civil rights need to be for all," Osmond said. "When you start mixing religion into that and beliefs, you know, I do believe in the Bible. My daughter understands my beliefs. And, you know, God said to be married and be productive with your children and, you know, replenish the earth or whatever. She understands those things. My daughter is sharp. And we have a great relationship and I think she would tell you that." You go Marie Osmond! 
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Would that more people would be willing to walk the walk and talk the talk.
A well reasoned argument is like a diamond: impervious to corruption and crystal clear - and infinitely rarer.
Here, as elsewhere, people are outraged at what feels like a rigged game -- an economy that won't respond, a democracy that won't listen, and a financial sector that holds all the cards. - Robert Reich
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Gay Marriage seems to be making inroads into normality slowly, with fits and starts, but surely. An idea, perhaps whose time has come. Within not too many years I believe it will be accepted in all 50 states. Really, after all, why not?
This will open up the doors, or course, to Gay Divorce. Given 20 years or so for the community to adjust to it I wonder how divorce rates will compare to straight marriages. Logic tells me pretty much the same, people are people after all. Just a thought and a point to ponder. I haven't always followed this thread and it's a big one so I don't know if this has come up before.
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...but for a major Morman player to make the case for Gay Marriage is AWESOME!!!!!!
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...but for a major Morman player to make the case for Gay Marriage is AWESOME!!!!!! Indeed it is, Rick. I have to assume that a certain fairly constant percentage of people are born gay. This holds true even in the Mormom church. "The Church" can take whatever stance it might choose but it will be ostracizing members and the loved ones of members.
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I've "heard" that if you're Mormon AND gay - well life is pretty much not worth living and it takes YEARS of therapy to get over the brainwashing done to gays by the Morman Church.
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Around here the gay community seems to get bigger and stronger every year. Essentially being seen as more normal and more a part of the rest of the community. I can't say the same for the Mormons, there is a church and a few can be seen occasionally but quite frankly everyone thinks them a little bit queer.
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