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I've "heard" that if you're Mormon AND gay - well life is pretty much not worth living and it takes YEARS of therapy to get over the brainwashing done to gays by the Morman Church. If you're Mormon and gay, you're unhappily married and either have or plan to have many kids. You also firmly believe as an unquestioned matter of faith, way down deep in your repressed psyche, that God never intended sexual intercourse to be an enjoyable act, and it is only proper for conception. You also keep track of your wife's cycles on the calendar. Yeah, it probably does take years of therapy for gays who were once Mormon to get over their neurosis, but if you're gay and still Mormon: as long as I'm discrete, may I date your wife? It's liable to make her much more agreeable to her ball and chain of a husband.
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Just received my first marriage announcement from friends who went to Iowa last week.
Biggest smile I've had in a while!
Julia
A 45’s quicker than 409
Betty’s cleaning’ house for the very last time
Betty’s bein’ bad
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I'm with you, Mellow. I get a smile watching happy people, and these are people that have waited so long for the opportunity to be considered "normal" that their exuberance at the opportunity is infectious.
A well reasoned argument is like a diamond: impervious to corruption and crystal clear - and infinitely rarer.
Here, as elsewhere, people are outraged at what feels like a rigged game -- an economy that won't respond, a democracy that won't listen, and a financial sector that holds all the cards. - Robert Reich
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Did you catch Obama's Iowa marriage bit Sunday? Talking about trying to convince Axelrod to join his campaign way back in the early days; they agreed to meet in Iowa. funny when he told it.
"The white men were as thick and numerous and aimless as grasshoppers, moving always in a hurry but never seeming to get to whatever place it was they were going to." Dee Brown
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Several of my clients are couples among the 18,000 awaiting the California Supreme Court decision. It is painful to look into their faces when I talk with them. Even worse when I explain how, even if their marriage is affirmed, the federal government has so many ways of discriminating against them.
Life is a banquet -- and most poor suckers are starving to death -- Auntie Mame
You are born naked and everything else is drag - RuPaul
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New York Assembly Passes Gay Marriage Bill ALBANY — The State Assembly approved legislation on Tuesday night that would make New York the sixth state to allow same-sex marriage — a pivotal vote that shifts the debate to the State Senate, where gay rights advocates and conservative groups alike are redoubling their efforts.
In a sign of how opinion in Albany has shifted on the issue, several members of the Assembly who voted against the measure in 2007 voted in favor of it on Tuesday.
The final vote was 89 to 52, including the backing of five Republicans.
A well reasoned argument is like a diamond: impervious to corruption and crystal clear - and infinitely rarer.
Here, as elsewhere, people are outraged at what feels like a rigged game -- an economy that won't respond, a democracy that won't listen, and a financial sector that holds all the cards. - Robert Reich
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I suppose this is progress, in a highly perverse way: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2009/05/16/national/a091816D11.DTL His Majesty Mr. Steele is reduced to making arguments that appear logical on the surface but collapse under the weight of their own stupidity upon the second glance (for some it won't take a second). If the world followed Mr. Steele's model of decorum, the same person who stars in his little side show would not have a gay partner but would instead have an opposite sex partner who would enter into a "conventional" marriage, thus causing the small business owner EXACTLY THE SAME expense. This argument is so specious and so devoid of any basis for acceptance by anyone who gives it a moment of thought, that it suggests we are seeing the beginning of the end of mainstream opposition to the idea that couples should not be denied conjugal rights on the basis of gender.
"The white men were as thick and numerous and aimless as grasshoppers, moving always in a hurry but never seeming to get to whatever place it was they were going to." Dee Brown
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I'm with you, Mellow. I get a smile watching happy people, and these are people that have waited so long for the opportunity to be considered "normal" that their exuberance at the opportunity is infectious. And it is impossible to see how they are "damaging" the marriage of anyone else.
"It's not a lie if you believe it." -- George Costanza
The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. --Bertrand Russel
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We should hear California's decision sometime this week - which means we could hear any second now... My bday is this Friday, May 22nd, and by happy coincidence, it's also Harvey Milk's bday. It would be AWESOME if the Supreme Court voted down Prop 8 on May 22nd. 
Contrarian, extraordinaire
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that would be awesome, Rick
my wedding anniversary is May 23
that would be a nice memorial for me too
"Life is not about waiting for the storms to pass...it's about learning how to dance in the rain."
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