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Originally Posted by Spag-hetti
Which party is trying to capitalize on "race"?

I think the Democratic wing of the Party has happily excelled at exploiting race and racial tensions for decades, Spag-hetti, using it to silence criticism and to cow opposition. The Republican wing of the party has been willing to eagerly benefit from the inevitable backlash, mainly 'whites', but runs for the hills in panic at the first whispered charge of 'racism'. That is, I think, why Dems have so eagerly relied on it as the Great Silencer. I do not think there are many voters who are any longer going to fall for that hustle simply because there are so many examples of races other than 'white' who have made it in America, and who hold high-powered positions of power in politics, society, and business. Your milage may vary.:-)
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Interesting article on that by Joe Fitzgerald in today's Herald.

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/columnists/view/20220818liberals_exploitingblacks_is_tired_trend/

Black history hasn’t taught us much, or so it seems when we see it continually reduced to a self-serving prop by those who regard it as a tool for advancement.

Joe Biden telling a Virginia crowd of blacks that GOP policies are “gonna put y’all back in chains” is just any echo of shameless exploitations we’ve all heard before.

It’s Ted Kennedy suggesting, “Robert Bork’s America is a land in which ... blacks would sit at segregated lunch counters.”

How could this late liberal lion exploit those Americans who were martyred at those counters for something much greater than a cheap punch line?

It’s John Kerry telling the congregation at Roxbury’s Twelfth Baptist Church that “a vote for Bill Weld is a vote for Jesse Helms,” as if his Republican opponent was a kindred spirit to the KKK.

Did he not realize how monstrous that allegation was, or did he simply not care?

It’s Chuck Turner, ejected from the Boston City Council for accepting a bribe, railing how “African-Americans were brought to this country as slaves, (and) we were whipped and lashed and hung.”

In that pathetic attempt to divert attention from his own corruption, he cheapened the blood those ancestors shed by using it to wash his dirty hands.

It’s Harvard professor Henry Louis Gates Jr., arrested for mouthing off to a Cambridge cop, saying he planned to donate the handcuffs used to shackle him to the Smithsonian Institute’s museum of black history, as if he had personally challenged Bull Connor.



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No one should be allowed to refer to the Peculiar Institution that existed in the past when discussing the present or their own particular inadequacies. It does nothing but cheapen the sufferings of the past while seeking to suffer the sins of the Fathers unto later generations. The only "racism" in existence today is the rabid discrimination against and demonizing of White, Christian men of means.


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I think the Democratic wing of the Party has happily excelled at exploiting race and racial tensions for decades, Spag-hetti, using it to silence criticism and to cow opposition.
Yes, indeed, Issodhos, you and I should agree with Irked, above!!
Obviously, racism is no longer a problem in the United States, and no one would even notice the hue of a person's skin if the Democrats were not constantly drawing our attention to it !!

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It’s John Kerry telling the congregation at Roxbury’s Twelfth Baptist Church that “a vote for Bill Weld is a vote for Jesse Helms,” as if his Republican opponent was a kindred spirit to the KKK.

Did he not realize how monstrous that allegation was, or did he simply not care?

I think Jesse Helms was perhaps the monster....
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An unreconstructed Southern conservative, he began his political career in the Democratic Party in the days when many white Southern politicians championed racial segregation. He moved to the Republican party in the 1970s. Helms was the most stridently conservative politician of the post 1960 era,[4] especially in opposition to federal intervention into what he considered state affairs (integration, the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act). Helms tried, with a 16-day filibuster, to stop the Senate from approving a federal holiday to honor Martin Luther King, Jr.
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On social issues, Helms was a traditionalist. He was a "master obstructionist" who relished his nickname, "Senator No".[7] He opposed, at various times, civil rights, disability rights, feminism, gay rights, affirmative action, abortion, and government support for contemporary art with graphic sexuality.[8] Helms brought an "aggressiveness"[9] to his conservatism, as in his rhetoric against homosexuality, and employed racially charged language in his campaigns and editorials.
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Make of it what you will, but Helms stood for pretty much everything the KKK stands for. But that doesn't make him a racist by any means.
For what it's worth Bill Weld had his own problems with Jesse Helms:
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Weld resigned the governorship after being nominated United States Ambassador to Mexico by President Bill Clinton. He was never confirmed by the United States Senate, however, and hence never served as Ambassador. This was due mainly to opposition from Senate Foreign Relations committee chairman Jesse Helms, who refused to hold a hearing on the nomination, effectively blocking it. Though both were Republicans and though that party held the majority in the chamber, Helms objected to Weld's moderate stance on several social issues. This refusal to hold hearings was also rumored to be at the request of former attorney general and friend of Helms, Ed Meese. Meese had a long standing grudge against Weld stemming from Weld's investigation of Meese during the Iran-Contra affair.
Wiki-Bill Weld So I'd say the statement wasn't "monstrous, it was just plain silly.


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It is amazing how all the monsters turn out at election season !!

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Originally Posted by issodhos
Originally Posted by Spag-hetti
Which party is trying to capitalize on "race"?

I think the Democratic wing of the Party has happily excelled at exploiting race and racial tensions for decades, Spag-hetti, using it to silence criticism and to cow opposition. The Republican wing of the party has been willing to eagerly benefit from the inevitable backlash, mainly 'whites', but runs for the hills in panic at the first whispered charge of 'racism'. That is, I think, why Dems have so eagerly relied on it as the Great Silencer. I do not think there are many voters who are any longer going to fall for that hustle simply because there are so many examples of races other than 'white' who have made it in America, and who hold high-powered positions of power in politics, society, and business. Your milage may vary.:-)
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Did that answer your question, Spag-hette?
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It saddens me when some claim that any mention of race is racist, when in fact racism is a deep strain in American politics. It is hidden nowadays by all sorts of deflections and rationalizations, not the least of which is the most racist of all -- that there is no racism in Amerika.

There is no human being who does not notice differences among the appearances of each human being. To claim that one either does not notice the differences or that when noticed there is absolutely no difference in how one thinks at the instant of noticing is either hopelessly deluded or dishonest.


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Originally Posted by Phil Hoskins
It saddens me when some claim that any mention of race is racist, when in fact racism is a deep strain in American politics. It is hidden nowadays by all sorts of deflections and rationalizations, not the least of which is the most racist of all -- that there is no racism in Amerika.

There is no human being who does not notice differences among the appearances of each human being. To claim that one either does not notice the differences or that when noticed there is absolutely no difference in how one thinks at the instant of noticing is either hopelessly deluded or dishonest.

I think this is a good example of ignoratio elechi, Hoskins. No one has made any such claim, nor is noticing differences in skin color or features a part of the definition of racism. Now, back to the topic?
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Exactly what I mean. Thanks for the illustration.


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