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I think personal privacy is a lost cause in modern society. I think, rather, that one's efforts should be put to ensuring that the big wigs get spied upon just as much, or more, than the little people.
Let's see how our "respected leaders" like that!! · [Linked Image from t0.gstatic.com]

Personally, I am all for everybody being scanned, photographed, recorded, televised and put on the internet, all the time, 24 hours a day.

It might be a little disconcerting at first, but I think we would wind up with a healthier, happier, better society -- with a lot fewer hang-ups and much less insanity.

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Originally Posted by numan
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I think personal privacy is a lost cause in modern society. I think, rather, that one's efforts should be put to ensuring that the big wigs get spied upon just as much, or more, than the little people.
Let's see how our "respected leaders" like that!! · [Linked Image from t0.gstatic.com]

Personally, I am all for everybody being scanned, photographed, recorded, televised and put on the internet, all the time, 24 hours a day.

It might be a little disconcerting at first, but I think we would wind up with a healthier, happier, better society -- with a lot fewer hang-ups and much less insanity.

Too much information for the humanoid brain. Likely to cause a short circuit... Which, of course, could well be an interesting outcome. wink


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Naah -- everybody would soon become bored with most of it and go on to things more interesting.

Just think how boring most porn is, now that it is so readily available.

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Originally Posted by Ezekiel
The powers that be will always find a justification for spying on their own citizens. And if they can do it out in the open so much the better, it reduces the risk of legal challenge.The sooner people realize that we are already living in a police state, the easier it will be to create a truly popular reaction against this. Obviously, that's a lot easier said than done. wink
Essentially the reason for the spying is command and control fueled by fear, loathing, distrust, and paranoia. TPTB send out their minions (mandarin class)much in the manner as the King's men performed kingly functions that were beneath their Sire. We're becoming 3 classes: the elite, mandarin class (officialdom),and serfs in a hi-tech new feudalism. You're right about doing it (spying)in the open. As you know, they just "legalize" it. We've been a police state for quite some time. Even some police officers don't realize the extent. The Patriot Act(s)just "legalized" what they've been doing for years. The NDAA was the last nail in the coffin.

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Originally Posted by numan
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I think personal privacy is a lost cause in modern society. I think, rather, that one's efforts should be put to ensuring that the big wigs get spied upon just as much, or more, than the little people.
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The "big wigs" spy on each other, especially when one becomes a loose cannon. Remember Eliot Spitzer? He went after Wall Street. Some time later, "they" went after him. Picked him up and leaked an indiscretion- going to high priced hooker, which he paid for out his own pocket and didn't put her on the payroll like a lot of them do. They "investigated" him under provisions of the Patriot Act and then leaked some detail to ruin him politically, It worked. In most instances all it takes is a story that some politician is being investigated, hyped by a compliant media/hack, to ruin a political career.


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As a result of those recording devices this fellow nearly had his life ruined after being falsely accused.



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Prosecutor Kevin Rooney revealed today that cops picked up Vanderwoude after an anonymous tipster called Crime Stoppers after seeing footage of a well-dressed man that police suspected in the string of attacks.

The tipster served up Vanderwoude to cops on a plate -- giving his name, address, cell phone, place of employment and the name of the person with whom he was living.

Man Falsely Accused


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Originally Posted by Joe Keegan
Essentially the reason for the spying is command and control fueled by fear, loathing, distrust, and paranoia. TPTB send out their minions (mandarin class)much in the manner as the King's men performed kingly functions that were beneath their Sire. We're becoming 3 classes: the elite, mandarin class (officialdom),and serfs in a hi-tech new feudalism.
Check out Orwell's 1984 (or rather, 1948) : Inner Party, Outer Party, Proles.

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Originally Posted by Ezekiel
As a result of those recording devices this fellow nearly had his life ruined after being falsely accused.



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Prosecutor Kevin Rooney revealed today that cops picked up Vanderwoude after an anonymous tipster called Crime Stoppers after seeing footage of a well-dressed man that police suspected in the string of attacks.

The tipster served up Vanderwoude to cops on a plate -- giving his name, address, cell phone, place of employment and the name of the person with whom he was living.

Man Falsely Accused
I'd guess (without seeing the video)that Vanderwoude looked enough like the guy for the cops (whom I'd guess were being pressured to arrest someone)to pick him up. I don't understand why the police wouldn't investigate his alibi, unless there was so much pressure on them that they didn't care. There are a lot of problems, despite this "seemingly" incontrovertible evidence, with these devices, as well as anonymous tips, especially in a "snitch" culture.

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It's almost as though Orwell's 1984 served as a blue print.


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