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logtroll #281628 10/11/15 01:33 AM
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Will the Bengazzie Boogie and Emailgate become assets against the Republicans in Hillary's campaign for President?

It wouldn't be the first time Republicans have had half baked politicized schemes blow up in their faces.


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Originally Posted by Greger
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Will the Bengazzie Boogie and Emailgate become assets against the Republicans in Hillary's campaign for President?

It wouldn't be the first time Republicans have had half baked politicized schemes blow up in their faces.

And it probably won't be the last.


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Heads up guys. News flash:
Charles Koch - yeah that Koch - said in an interview on CBS:
"I'm a liberal "


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Originally Posted by Ezekiel
Heads up guys. News flash:
Charles Koch - yeah that Koch - said in an interview on CBS:
"I'm a liberal "

Bwahahahaha!


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Originally Posted by Ezekiel
Heads up guys. News flash:
Charles Koch - yeah that Koch - said in an interview on CBS:
"I'm a liberal "
If Issodhos were here he would agree - a Classical Liberal, as defined by Ludwig Von Mises, with absolutely no relevance to the meaning of the word today.


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This prediction surprised me: Which Republican presidential candidate will drop out next? Maybe these two.

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Sox who’s next? While it’s impossible to predict, based on previous research by me and several colleagues, I think Govs. Chris Christie and John Kasich are in danger of dropping out. Here’s why.


A well reasoned argument is like a diamond: impervious to corruption and crystal clear - and infinitely rarer.

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Originally Posted by logtroll
Originally Posted by Ezekiel
Heads up guys. News flash:
Charles Koch - yeah that Koch - said in an interview on CBS:
"I'm a liberal "
If Issodhos were here he would agree - a Classical Liberal, as defined by Ludwig Von Mises, with absolutely no relevance to the meaning of the word today.

What ever happened to Issy?

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How Bernie Sanders turned himself into a serious presidential contender

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Ahead of the showdown in Las Vegas, Sanders spent the weekend making the case he's not out of the mainstream, repeatedly arguing that it's "not a radical idea" to think someone should be paid a livable wage or that students should not go into a lifetime of debt. "I don't think this is a leftist, extremist position," he said at a Saturday rally in Boulder, Colorado, referring to a $15 minimum wage.

I think the reality is that more Americans support his ideas than what any of the other candidates are pedaling. The problem is with labels. Labeling is killing him, and will put a ceiling on his chances. But, I believe his ideas will take hold and inform the election. My wife and son are already ardent supporters.


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Let's call a spade a spade here NWP. His "labeling problem" is of his own making. He has labeled himself a Socialist and in this day and age it is anathema to any chance he has of election.
Republicans and Democrats alike should and do fear Socialism. Particularly that of the Marxist/Leninist variety where government controls the means of production which is ostensibly "owned" by the workers.
It is seen by economic theorists, such as Marx, as a cure for the ravages of unregulated Capitalism. We're seeing some of these problems today as the United States enters a new "Gilded Age" where the wealthy control more and more of the finite assets available to the population at large and use this wealth to obtain more and more of these assets until there is not enough left for the lower classes to survive.

From the article linked to your post:
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Bernie Sanders faces the biggest test of his decades-long career this week.
The committed Democratic socialist and sometimes self-styled radical has consistently argued that his brand of populist politics can win elections.

Bernie Sanders is not a Democratic Socialist.
He is a proponent of Social Democracy. There is a huge difference.

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Democratic socialism is a political ideology advocating a democratic political system alongside a socialist economic system, involving a combination of political democracy with social ownership of the means of production. Sometimes used synonymously with "socialism", the adjective "democratic" is added to distinguish itself from the Marxist–Leninist brand of socialism

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Social Democracy is a political ideology that supports economic and social interventions to promote social justice within the framework of a capitalist economy, and a policy regime involving welfare state provisions, collective bargaining arrangements, regulation of the economy in the general interest, redistribution of income and wealth, and a commitment to representative democracy. Social democracy aims to create the conditions for capitalism to lead to greater egalitarian, democratic and solidaristic outcomes. "Social democracy" is often used in this manner to refer to the social policies prominent in Western and Northern Europe - particularly in reference to the Nordic countries - during the latter half of the 20th century. Alternatively, social democracy is defined as a political ideology that advocates a peaceful, evolutionary transition of society from capitalism to socialism using established political processes.



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I think Sanders used it in the Northern European sense, and, really, we are all Social Democrats in that sense. But you are right that that is the self-imposed label that dooms him. He is trying, however, to get that meaning adopted by the mainstream to take away its sting. Ours is a Social Democratic Republic (and Representative Democracy), but most people don't recognize it for what it is.


A well reasoned argument is like a diamond: impervious to corruption and crystal clear - and infinitely rarer.

Here, as elsewhere, people are outraged at what feels like a rigged game -- an economy that won't respond, a democracy that won't listen, and a financial sector that holds all the cards. - Robert Reich
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