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Leave it to Trump to tell the truth about at least one thing.  But the Republicans will still deny. The BS factor in the Republican Party never seems to quit. They have taken it on as their primary MO. Republicans seem to wallow in "deny and lie".
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It's time to update this thread.
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Excellent article, from a conservative site, about Trump supporters. Can Donald Trump's Mockery of a Disabled Reporter be Defended?Leon H. Wolf RedState November 27, 2015 ... Mocking a disabled person for their disability has been universally passé since at least the 1950s, and so some of his supporters have been out on twitter over the last couple of days offering various defenses for Trump's behavior on this video. It is important to note that Trump himself has (as far as I know) offered only this by way of "explanation" for his actions:
Defense 1. Trump didn't know Koveleski was disabled ...
So, to believe that Trump had no idea what Koveleski looked like or the particulars of his disability, you would have to believe a) that the entire written record of their numerous interactions is fabricated, and Koveleski in particular (the very person on whose word Trump is staking his 9/11 claims) is flat out lying b) that he said "the poor guy" when referring to Koveleski because... well, I have no idea what the "because" is even supposed to be on that one and c) Trump was able to pull off an imitation of Koveleski's specific physical deformity purely by chance ...
2. "The Media" mocked Trig Palin for having Down's Syndrome, so they are fair game.
... if Tom Brokaw insulted Dick Cheney, that would not give Rick Santorum free license to punch Jake Tapper in the face. That's more or less exactly the defense that is being raised by Trump supporters, though.
3. No one is above mockery ...
The problem comes when people are mocked, not for the things they've done, but for the physical conditions over which they have no control ...
Trump has demonstrated time and time again that he simply is not suited for the office either by temperament or by judgment ...
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Golem~Ask and you shall receive! Trump Drops Sharply iIn Polls U.S. presidential hopeful Donald Trump’s support among Republicans has dropped 12 points in less than a week, marking the real estate mogul’s biggest decline since he vaulted to the top of the field in July, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll.
Trump was the favorite of 31 percent of Republicans in a rolling poll in the five days ended on Nov. 27. That was down from a peak of 43 percent registered on Nov. 22.
The dip follows criticism of Trump for comments he made in the aftermath of the Nov. 13 Paris attacks that killed 130 people and wounded hundreds more.
Following the attacks, Trump told an NBC News reporter that he would support requiring all Muslims within the United States to be registered to a special database, which his critics have likened to the mandatory registration of Jews in Nazi Germany.
Trump has also been criticized for flailing his arms and distorting his speech as he mocked a New York Times reporter, Serge Kovaleski, who is disabled.
Trump mocked the reporter as he defended his unsubstantiated assertion that during the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks on the United States, he watched on television as “thousands and thousands” of people in New Jersey cheered while the World Trade Center fell.
Still, Trump is not the only front-runner to slide in the latest survey.
Retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson has seen his poll numbers drift downward and now trails Trump by more than half, with just 15 percent of Republicans polled saying they would vote for him in the same Nov. 27 poll. As recently as late October, Carson trailed Trump by only six points.
Following Carson, Florida Senator Marco Rubio and Texas Senator Ted Cruz are tied for third place, with more than 8 percent each.
Following Rubio and Cruz was former Florida Governor Jeb Bush, with 7 percent.
The five-day rolling average sample size ranged from 464 to 347 respondents between Nov. 22 and Nov. 27, with a credibility interval of 5.2 to 6.1 percentage points.
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Here's the 2001 quote that Trump is citing: In Jersey City, within hours of two jetliners' plowing into the World Trade Center, law enforcement authorities detained and questioned a number of people who were allegedly seen celebrating the attacks and holding tailgate-style parties on rooftops while they watched the devastation on the other side of the river. That's not exactly comprehensive proof of Trump's "thousands and thousands" claim. Also, I can see why someone would not remember a particular sentence in an article he wrote fourteen years before.
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In an interview on Thursday, Mr. Kovaleski said that he met with Mr. Trump repeatedly when he was a reporter for The Daily News covering the developer’s business career in the late 1980s, before joining The Post. “Donald and I were on a first-name basis for years,” Mr. Kovaleski said. “I’ve interviewed him in his office,” he added. “I’ve talked to him at press conferences. All in all, I would say around a dozen times, I’ve interacted with him as a reporter while I was at The Daily News.”
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I remember reading some articles back then that mentioned those celebration incidents Golem, but I don’t know if that was true to not. I supposed some might have been pleased with the downing of the towers and the ensuing mayhem. Depends on whose side one is on and where ones allegiance lies I suppose.
I don’t remember reading much follow up on it and the story died down.
Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please.
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It was actually dancing Isaelis. Obviously all middle easterners look alike to The Donald.
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It was actually dancing Isaelis. Obviously all middle easterners look alike to The Donald. Israeli Muslims are know to be the most radical...
You never change things by fighting the existing reality.
To change something, build a new model that makes the old model obsolete.
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It was actually dancing Isaelis. Obviously all middle easterners look alike to The Donald. 
"The liberals can understand everything but people who don't understand them."
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"The cleverest of all, in my opinion, is the man who calls himself a fool at least once a month."
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