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Originally Posted by Ken Condon
I remember reading some articles back then that mentioned those celebration incidents Golem, but I don’t know if that was true to not. I supposed some might have been pleased with the downing of the towers and the ensuing mayhem. Depends on whose side one is on and where ones allegiance lies I suppose.

I don’t remember reading much follow up on it and the story died down.
Common sense says that there probably were some celebrations across the country. But were there "thousands and thousands" of people celebrating in NJ as Trump implies? I think not.

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Originally Posted by Golem
Common sense says that there probably were some celebrations across the country. But were there "thousands and thousands" of people celebrating in NJ as Trump implies? I think not.
Probably right on both counts.

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I have noticed that Trump is honing his stump speech towards this work of art:

Perfected GOP stump speech

I'm sure he will maintain extra spiciness via generous sprinkles of low insults...


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Trump apologist dodges 9/11 questions

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Things got pretty heated last night on Megyn Kelly's show when Steve Hayes debated Trump apologist Roger Stone on whether Trump mocked reporter Serge [Kovaleski] and whether Trump actually saw "thousands and thousands of Muslims" celebrating in New Jersey on 9/11 ...

Ms. Kelly asked Roger Stone "you're telling me that motion that he did with his hands was not an attempt to mock a reporter who's covered him for 20 years and who he's on a first name basis with?" Stone's first attempt to answer was to deflect the question: ...
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Breitbart Baloney: Site Changes Donald Trump's 9/11 Muslim Claims to Prove He's Right

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Many journalists have pressed Donald Trump and his campaign on the GOP presidential frontrunner's claim that "thousands and thousands" of New Jersey Muslims cheered while watching the World Trade Center towers collapse on 9/11.

They've relied on the basic journalistic premise that a handful of celebrating Muslims -- as multiple sources have confirmed -- is far different than thousands.

But two stories posted Wednesday on Breitbart.com, including one headlined "Trump 100% Vindicated: CBS Reports 'Swarm' On Rooftops Celebrating 9/11," try to back up the Republican presidential candidate using magical math, generous leaps of the imagination and alterations of Trump's actual claims.
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I'm hoping Donald Trump becomes the Republican nominee. If he loses in the general election it's no big deal, but if he wins Republicans will finally get the government they want and deserve.
Goodbye jobs and hello to more wars. Deficits wont matter anymore and the national debt will soar, as it always does under a Republican President, and the economy will tank. President Trump can do all this in four short years and by then will have had enough of trying to shepherd all the "losers" into doing things his way and will not run for a second term.
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Look, I've long believed, and stated, that Trump is just plain nuts, but his latest is just ridiculously dangerous:
Donald Trump on terrorists: 'Take out their families'
So, the way to beat terrorists is to be worse than them? Minor details like "international law" or basic humanity don't apply because he "knows better"? This on top of blatantly lying about ridiculing a disabled journalist, when everyone has seen it, and quadrupling down on his claim that "he saw" - "thousands and thousands" of New Jersey Muslims cheering the fall of the twin towers.

Donald Trump not only is disqualified from being President, he's in danger of disqualifying himself from being considered human.


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Many journalists have pressed Donald Trump and his campaign on the GOP presidential frontrunner's claim that "thousands and thousands" of New Jersey Muslims cheered while watching the World Trade Center towers collapse on 9/11.

They've relied on the basic journalistic premise that a handful of celebrating Muslims -- as multiple sources have confirmed -- is far different than thousands.

But two stories posted Wednesday on Breitbart.com, including one headlined "Trump 100% Vindicated: CBS Reports 'Swarm' On Rooftops Celebrating 9/11," try to back up the Republican presidential candidate using magical math, generous leaps of the imagination and alterations of Trump's actual claims.
First of all, I can't believe that dead Andrew's blog is still around. Secondly, extremist conservatives are really into confirmation bias.


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