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A Democratic win could possibly retake the Senate and narrow the gap slightly in the House. A very decisive win should convince at least a few more moderate conservatives that the path they have chosen is not one America chooses to follow them on.

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they are convinced they are on the road to a glorious and overwhelming victory.
Because they can't imagine that they are not actually a majority. As it turns out, the moral majority is neither moral nor a majority.



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If anybody can out-maneuver a Republican House, I think it's Hillary. I suspect she was actually a lot of Bill's famed political prowess.

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I just realized why Donald Trump has so much staying power (other than his billions of dollars). He is a walking, talking (and talking and talking) conspiracy theory. Conspiracists get more ardent the more evidence that is arrayed against them, and "The Donald" and "Dr. Ben" represent the font of anti-evidentiary platitudes. If you feel downtrodden, or paranoid, they are your candidates.

Now, when I started to write this, I was just expressing my opinion, but then I started reading other views. Turns out there is meat on them there bones. Trump
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[is] now supported by 25 to 30 percent of the 25 to 30 percent of Americans who self-identify as Republicans, notes data guru Nate Silver of FiveThirtyEight. That works out to about 6 to 8 percent of the total US electorate.

As Mr. Silver points out, that’s about as many Americans as believe the moon landings were faked.
No, Donald Trump supporters aren't actually everywhere. And may very well be the same people.

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Trump’s voters are less-educated, lower-income white Republicans. Carson is a traditional evangelical, social-conservative GOP candidate.
In other words, very, VERY low information voters. (In other, other words, the GOP base - or the basest of the base.) Together they make up the approximately same percentage as Hispanic voters.

And if you think "The Donald" is certifiably crazy, you have company there, too, among the psychiatric community. Clinical Psychologists Diagnose Don...t Pretty, Especially For His Supporters; Is Donald Trump Actually a Narcissist? Therapists Weigh In! To which my response is, "duh!" He is such a classic narcissist that he is used as a case study - I'm dead serious. (“He’s so classic that I’m archiving video clips of him to use in workshops because there’s no better example of his characteristics. Otherwise, I would have had to hire actors and write vignettes. He’s like a dream come true.” - Dr. George Simon)

So how dangerous is that? As one psychologist put it, “For me, the compelling question is the psychological state of his supporters. They are unable or unwilling to make a connection between the challenges faced by any president and the knowledge and behavior of Donald Trump. In a democracy, that is disastrous.” The same can be said of Ben Carson, who insists that the pyramids were created by Joseph to store grain (Ben Carson's unusual theory about pyramids), and espouses other crazy - I mean that literally - ideas.
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On Friday, CNN debunked a story from his autobiography about nearly stabbing a friend in his rage-filled youth. We learned he thinks the pyramids were built by the Old Testament patriarch Joseph to store grain, a theory which is wrong — according to the ancient Egyptians themselves. He claimed the Founding Fathers had never held elective office, an obvious falsehood. Then his campaign claimed he meant they had never held federal office; which is true only because there was no federal government at the time to hold an office in.
Why Ben Carson's Tenuous Relationship To Facts Is Helping, Not Hurting, His Campaign. To those who reject the narrative of the world that is based upon fact, support for a man who is more concerned with "narrative" than reality is a logical choice. For the rest of us it is a disaster.


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Originally Posted by NW Ponderer
I just realized why Donald Trump has so much staying power (other than his billions of dollars). He is a walking, talking (and talking and talking) conspiracy theory. Conspiracists get more ardent the more evidence that is arrayed against them, and "The Donald" and "Dr. Ben" represent the font of anti-evidentiary platitudes. If you feel downtrodden, or paranoid, they are your candidates.
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To those who reject the narrative of the world that is based upon fact, support for a man who is more concerned with "narrative" than reality is a logical choice. For the rest of us it is a disaster.

Why Sir, I believe you have nailed it! ThumbsUp ThumbsUp


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Have any of you seen the BLM (Black Live Matter) protester at a Donald Trump rally recently? He received a beat-down by Donald supporters before security intervened. I saw that video, and one thing stuck out at me, so I viewed the video again - besides the BLM protester, there was nary another black American supporter there.

For me, this confirms that Donald's supporters are a minority of the GOP (old, white) base and as Nate Silver points out, there are as many who support The Donald as there are who don't believe that we landed on the moon. It's always the same amount people - about 6 to 8 percent.

Not only are these people a fraction of the GOP base, they are the deluded fraction of the GOP base - but they think they are the majority of Americans. Priceless!!!


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If you want to see this delusion by these extreme conservatives on full display, there is a very conservative Disqus blog that has a lot of these mentally ill deluded folks I'm talking about above gathered onto one blog.

Just peruse their comments, if nothing else - and bring popcorn - it's a hoot: Linky Dink


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If you want to see this delusion by these extreme conservatives on full display...
Simply watch the GOP candidates in front of cameras...

Cruz Condemns Colorado Shooting, Rejects Anti-Abortion Link
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When a reporter reminded Cruz it has been reported Dear made a comment about "baby parts" while being apprehended, Cruz retorted, "It’s also been reported that he was registered as an independent and a woman and a transgendered leftist activist. If that’s what he is, I don’t think it’s fair to blame on the rhetoric on the left. This is a murderer.”

Carly Fiorina Calls Planned Parenthood Shooter a 'Protester,' Decries 'Left-Wing Tactics'.
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“This is so typical of the left to immediately begin demonizing a messenger because they don’t agree with the message. The vast majority of Americans agree what Planned Parenthood is doing is wrong.”
Messenger? What planet does she come from? HE KILLED 3 PEOPLE. What kind of a message is that? How is that a protest? BUT she didn't stop there! She went on to equate BLM protesters being shot by white supremacists with the shooter at the clinic.

Next, I suppose, that they will blame the San Bernadino rampage on government being too big and a protest against coddling the disabled. This is beyond idiotic, these people are truly, truly sick.


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Originally Posted by NW Ponderer
Carly Fiorina Calls Planned Parenthood Shooter a 'Protester,' Decries 'Left-Wing Tactics'.
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“This is so typical of the left to immediately begin demonizing a messenger because they don’t agree with the message. The vast majority of Americans agree what Planned Parenthood is doing is wrong.”
Messenger? What planet does she come from? HE KILLED 3 PEOPLE. What kind of a message is that? How is that a protest? BUT she didn't stop there! She went on to equate BLM protesters being shot by white supremacists with the shooter at the clinic.
Cara Sneed-Fiorina is seriously messed-up in the head. crazy

You’d think given how the "vast majority" of Americans agree with Fiorina, according to Fiorina, and want to murder Planned Parenthood with a rusty coat hanger, she ought to be more popular with the voters these days.



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The bar for a Presidential candidacy has been set so low this season that I am not sure that it can be lowered. Ben Carson, Donald Trump, and Carly Fiorina have no business running for office, let alone the highest office in the land. Amateurs gave us the Iraq war fiasco, but these bozos don't think it went far enough! Donald Trump exults in being an ignoramus - and lies so frequently he doesn't recognize reality. Ben Carson is just an Ego attached to a body, and demonstrates that it doesn't take brains to be a brain surgeon. Carly Fiorina wouldn't know the truth if it bit her on the ... wherever.

If there is one thing that Barack Obama did wrong it is that he gave credence to inexperienced pols thinking they could be President. Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio don't have a clue what governing means, but because they won one election think that they know how to run a country.

But we can't really blame this parade of horribles on the overweening egos of the politicians - that has always been the case. No, we have to blame it on an electorate that isn't able to discern reality from fantasy. Some of that is engineered, but mostly it is the result of an electorate that doesn't really care. How do we get them to care?


A well reasoned argument is like a diamond: impervious to corruption and crystal clear - and infinitely rarer.

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Originally Posted by NW Ponderer
... How do we get them to care?
Hard times...


You never change things by fighting the existing reality.
To change something, build a new model that makes the old model obsolete.
R. Buckminster Fuller
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