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Originally Posted by Scoutgal
I am hearing lots of rumors from the ultra-right that Donald Trump is being paid by Hillary Clinton to make the Republican Party look stupid. I don't think they need Donald Trump's help.

Florida Republican: Donald Trump is a Democratic plot to make GOP look stupid


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“I think there’s a small possibility that this gentleman is a phantom candidate,” Curbelo said. “Mr. Trump has a close friendship with Bill and Hillary Clinton. They were at his last wedding, he has contributed to the Clintons’ foundation, (and) he has contributed to Mrs. Clinton’s Senate campaigns. All of this is very suspicious.”

A spokesman for Florida’s Democratic Party dismissed Curbelo’s comments as absurd and urged him to “take off his tinfoil hat.”

You're right, they don't. But he sure is helping the Dems! ThumbsUp


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Trump Keeps Insulting Our 9/11 Dead

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... I should know by now that arguing with diehard Trump supporters is largely futile but, if any of you are reading this, I pray you'll take this issue seriously.

Two equally grim prospects can explain your behavior. The first that you know Trump's claim is untrue, but enjoy living in his Reality Distortion Field simply to tweak mainstream America and the news media. You've become inhabitants of a funhouse-mirror version of the liberal culture and media you mock: insular, aggressively contrarian, obsessed with narrative over fact and anger over history.

The second is that you want it to be true so badly that you'll invent an imagined outrage rather than focus on the actual, terrible problem of Islamic radicalism (as we saw this week in California) because that fight is harder, more complex and more painful than the hokey nostrums of Trump's "plan" to fight ISIS. ("Take duh oil! Bomb da s*** outta dem!" "Muslim database!")

Playing out Donald Trump's lies doesn't mean you're fighting some political correct media trope about Muslims or that you're teaching the press a lesson. It doesn't mean you're confronting radical Islam. It doesn't mean you're bravely revealing a media cover-up. It doesn't mean that you're going to teach the Republican establishment a lesson.

All it means is you're part of the profoundly recursive Trump dynamic; he feeds your fears, prejudices, and atavistic desires for revenge against your catalog of demons, be they Muslims, Mexicans, or Republicans who fail to kneel before the Donald. You feed his monstrous, boundless ego and like the master con artist he is, he shovels you a fresh line of easily-digested outrage and boob-bait rhetoric ...
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This is surprising? The Trumpeter says thing they want to hear and that’s all that matters.

He will build a wall (yea) and make Mexico pay for it, he will demand Asia send our jobs back, he will make America great again. the list goes on. He waves his arms about and tells them what he will do when elected dictator. And how awesome everything will become because of that.

They want what he says and he says what they want to hear.

End of story.


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Originally Posted by Ken Condon
This is surprising? The Trumpeter says thing they want to hear and that’s all that matters.
No. It's not surprising. I've been observing it for months. frown

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Your displeasure with Trump is well know on this board. I was not directing that comment to you --just voters in general.

Even though he waived that “pledge" about claiming he would never run as a third party candidate I think he is going to do just that. He is the Trumpster. He will do any damn thing he pleases. And for many- that is part of his appeal.

The Republican brass just cannot figure out how the deal with him and it’s sort of amusing even if it is sort of pathetic at the same time.


Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please.
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And when he is elected, he will ride a big white horse in a parade down Pennsylvania Avenue every day...

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It's still early, but from the looks of things Trump is not going to have to run a third party campaign. He is doing about what I expected Jeb Bush to do when I expected Jeb was going to be the nominee.


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Donald Trump calls for "total and complete shutdown" of Muslims entering U.S.

December 07, 2015 -

Donald J. Trump Statement on Preventing Muslim Immigration

(New York, NY) December 7th, 2015, -- Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on. According to Pew Research, among others, there is great hatred towards Americans by large segments of the Muslim population. Most recently, a poll from the Center for Security Policy released data showing "25% of those polled agreed that violence against Americans here in the United States is justified as a part of the global jihad" and 51% of those polled, "agreed that Muslims in America should have the choice of being governed according to Shariah." Shariah authorizes such atrocities as murder against non-believers who won't convert, beheadings and more unthinkable acts that pose great harm to Americans, especially women.

Mr. Trump stated, "Without looking at the various polling data, it is obvious to anybody the hatred is beyond comprehension. Where this hatred comes from and why we will have to determine. Until we are able to determine and understand this problem and the dangerous threat it poses, our country cannot be the victims of horrendous attacks by people that believe only in Jihad, and have no sense of reason or respect for human life. If I win the election for President, we are going to Make America Great Again." - Donald J. Trump

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-...atement-on-preventing-muslim-immigration

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Unfortunately there is some truth there. Until recently virtually all immigrants to the US wanted to be Americans first-and bringers of their culture second. Blending the two to create an even better America.

Perhaps the recent Muslims immigrants to the US want that too. I just don’t know. Seriously--I don’t know.

Do you? (Asking everyone) An honest question from one who doesn’t know the answer. Or have the vaguest clue.


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